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Air Venting for Pipe Radiators
JohnNY
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I got into a nice project in Tribeca, NYC with a 5-story building that was converted from warehouse space to very expensive residential living spaces. The original 2-pipe air vent system remained in place and it consisted of over 200 feet of 1-¼" steel pipe in each apartment terminating with an air vent. No traps.
The residents tried lots of different plumbers who suggested different types of vents and control settings but imbalance and overheating was what they lived with for many years.
After having good experiences with 2-pipe air vent systems and TRVs with oversized vents recently, I gave this a shot and it worked really well.
Instead of the usual little ⅛" (4, 5, 6, ,C, D, 41, etc) vents, I decided to go with ¾" thermostatic valve bodies and main vents on each 100-foot-long pipe radiator. It's working really great. I'm very happy with it and so are my clients.
Some of what was existing. Sorry for the giant pics.
The residents tried lots of different plumbers who suggested different types of vents and control settings but imbalance and overheating was what they lived with for many years.
After having good experiences with 2-pipe air vent systems and TRVs with oversized vents recently, I gave this a shot and it worked really well.
Instead of the usual little ⅛" (4, 5, 6, ,C, D, 41, etc) vents, I decided to go with ¾" thermostatic valve bodies and main vents on each 100-foot-long pipe radiator. It's working really great. I'm very happy with it and so are my clients.
Some of what was existing. Sorry for the giant pics.
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With the new TRVs in place:
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It's not letting me load any more pictures.Contact John "JohnNY" Cataneo, NYC Master Plumber, Lic 1784
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Nevermind.Contact John "JohnNY" Cataneo, NYC Master Plumber, Lic 1784
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I’ve been having trouble adding pictures as well today.
That’s is neat stuff. I’ve never seen anything like it. By the looks of it I’d assume that needed more than a typical radiator vent!Never stop learning.0 -
Two pipe radiator vent with trvs-probably to compensate for an imbalance of EDR in each area.
What sort of main vents were used-maybe top of riser big mouths?
Was it necessary to adjust the thermostat cycle time to make them work?—NBC0 -
Yes. I used Gorton #1 vents. I was tempted to use Big Mouths but I couldn't risk them passing water in these finished spaces. Gorton #2 vents are just too physically large. I went with the venting capacity of the Danfoss ¾" valve bodies and the ¾" threads of the Gorton 1.
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Very very nice, @JohnNY !Br. Jamie, osb
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It's amazing and awesome that someone decided to leave that system in place! Can't figure out why they have that guest bed in the dining room though!
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This is a 2.6 million dollar 2 bedroom apartment. God knows what goes on in there.ethicalpaul said:Can't figure out why they have that guest bed in the dining room though!
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I tried this morning and it wouldn't let me. So, I linked to Flikr.Erin Holohan Haskell said:Nice job, @JohnNY.
Are you guys still having trouble uploading pictures?
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Industrial chic!JohnNY said:
This is a 2.6 million dollar 2 bedroom apartment. God knows what goes on in there.ethicalpaul said:Can't figure out why they have that guest bed in the dining room though!
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It's not in the Dining room. It's in the Entertainment space.ethicalpaul said:It's amazing and awesome that someone decided to leave that system in place! Can't figure out why they have that guest bed in the dining room though!
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I'll look into this. Let me know if it happens again. Thanks!JohnNY said:
I tried this morning and it wouldn't let me. So, I linked to Flikr.Erin Holohan Haskell said:Nice job, @JohnNY.
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Real nice @JohnNY
The "Dead Men" new how to pipe though not a hanger in site.
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