Anyone know who made this thermostat?

DanHolohan

DanHolohan

Or this one?

SuperTech

Looks like it could have been made by Been Franklin or maybe Moses from the looks of it

The first one is Beautiful, does it still work? Someone will probably want to replace it with a Nest. That would be a shame.

DanHolohan

Disconnected now but they worked for 100 years. Probably would still work if connected.

SuperTech

And it will probably work for another hundred years and out last anything made today. Why can't we get something with that beauty and quality made today? I love the old stuff, the heating history section of this site is fantastic.

Erin Holohan Haskell

The first one was manufactured by Johnson Service Company (now Johnson Controls). Here's a photo of a restored version.



If you look at the bottom, you can see their old logo from the early 1900s.

DanHolohan

I always knew you were smarter than me. Thanks!

STEVEusaPA

You asked the entire world before you asked your daughter...hmmmm...lol (my father still does that to me!)
Nice thermostats...NO WIFI

DanHolohan

She just keeps getting stronger. Starting to scare me a bit. ;-)

STEVEusaPA

I still like this one:

DanHolohan

Nice!

Erin Holohan Haskell

STEVEusaPA said:

You asked the entire world before you asked your daughter...hmmmm...lol (my father still does that to me!)
Nice thermostats...NO WIFI

LOL

EBEBRATT-Ed

Those are probably all Honeywell series 10 type wiring 3 wires and don't match any modern equipment, although being Johnson Controls maybe they are pneumatic.

DanHolohan

They were installed in 1902 in this house:

DanHolohan

It's a Broomell system.

Whitehall. Henry Flagler's house in Palm Beach.

AMservices

@Dan Holohan get any pictures of the radiators or the boiler?
After seeing the thermostat, I want to see more.

Big Ed_4

Let's go back for fun.... Turn of the century before our last .. Having just installed an Automatic heating system in your newly built Winter mansion...You hold the Ninth Hole bragging rights in Palm Beach ....

the_donut

Design temp of 47*F for that area. But I guess you need it if there aren’t many people in your spacious house.

DanHolohan

All of the rooms, with the exception of the servants' rooms, had indirect radiators. The thermostats would have controlled dampers to those rooms. Here's a radiator in a servant's room.

The heating system was really for the art and not so much for the people. The family used the house for just a few weeks a year. It cost $1,000,000 in 1902.

I've given up asking to go in the basement in such places.

Mark Eatherton

Dan, she's so bright, you could call her your sun

Erin, my first company was called Eatherton and Suns. I had two daughters at the time. I'd show up with them on a job and introduce them as my Suns (spelling it out for them of course). They LOVED it. I had them places most people don't even know exist. They still talk about it today. "See that hotel?, well there's a mechanical room up on the roof that I've been in..." And their kids are all like "Sure mom... Whatever, I believe you..."

Enjoy!

ME

DanHolohan

I love it, Mark. Here's to bright SUNS!

Mike Cascio

Those are some beautiful thermostats. I still use my minneapolis honeywell 77 in my house. It does a pretty good job. Fairly accurate for a bimetal unit.

JUGHNE

Great t-stat. Do you get questions about it being a programmable, with the clock?

I do collect those pushbutton switches, but have not seen a wall plate like that. Is that an original oldie?

DanHolohan

Nice, Mike! Do you know why they called it 77?

Mike Cascio

I tell everyone that its my nest thermostat! I keep the house setback for 16 hours a day and it flawlessly sets back and increases according to schedule. The clock keeps time within 1 minute a week.

Dan, can I guess its 7 days a week and 7 jewels?

DanHolohan

Mike, Honeywell named it for Red Grange, The Galloping Ghost. :-)

Mike Cascio

I would have never guessed that! Very cool!

Erin Holohan Haskell

Mark Eatherton said:

Dan, she's so bright, you could call her your sun

Erin, my first company was called Eatherton and Suns. I had two daughters at the time. I'd show up with them on a job and introduce them as my Suns (spelling it out for them of course). They LOVED it. I had them places most people don't even know exist. They still talk about it today. "See that hotel?, well there's a mechanical room up on the roof that I've been in..." And their kids are all like "Sure mom... Whatever, I believe you..."

Enjoy!

ME

@Mark Eatherton I love this!

nicholas bonham-carter

These are in the Minneapolis Swedish Institute-in the original “castle” of the founder, which we have just visited.
Even the downspouts were fabulous!
One pipe steam, and still working, but couldn’t get in to see the boiler!—NBC

Big Ed_4

What kind of crazy scale is it for ? 40-00-90-20 ... What was it used for ? And the other is slightly different....

Gsmith

looks like 10 through 140 on one and 30 through 120 on the other. I think they just skipped the 1 in front of the numbers above 99.

Big Ed_4

Is it for an sauna ?

JUGHNE

The lever on top?? Would that be for a chain & pulley damper control?

JUGHNE

Erin, you should tell Dad about "Before You Ask..."
But then the rest of us would not hear the rest of the story.

DanHolohan

Ha!

Big Ed_4

Looks like the lever is just left or right .. Thinking ...not too much action for chain...Maybe an valve ..

JUGHNE

I agree it would take a longer lever, maybe it is a on & off switch.......if electricity was available.

Erin Holohan Haskell

JUGHNE said:

Erin, you should tell Dad about "Before You Ask..."
But then the rest of us would not hear the rest of the story.

Of course. Holohans love telling good stories.

Turbo Dave

You reminded me of this thermostat. I wish the photo had been better.

DanHolohan

Nice, Dave! Thanks for sharing.

Tim McElwain

I still service a house in the East Side of Providence on a very old street called Blackstone Blvd. The owner is a 96 year old lady who has me come by once a year to check here two Honeywell T105 (Series 10) thermostats. That is a DPST t'stat with a Chronotherm (clock) still working along with two Honeywell V155 motorized gas valve's which require a few drops of a special oil called Finol oil. She has a brand new T105 never taken out of the box just in case one of hers fails and also a V-155 gas valve still in the box. I love the old stuff. We still have old gas actuated systems in Providence that are still working.

I also have some Republic Gyroscopic Burners still working here in RI.

I recently was walking thorough an antique store and saw a T105 still in the box for sale. I ask the owner what he wanted for it his answer as it is in mint condition, in the original box about $500 would do it. That is more than a Nest!