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Anyone know who made this thermostat?

DanHolohan
DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506

Retired and loving it.
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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506
    Or this one?


    Retired and loving it.
  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,134
    Looks like it could have been made by Been Franklin or maybe Moses from the looks of it

    The first one is Beautiful, does it still work? Someone will probably want to replace it with a Nest. That would be a shame.
    HVACNUTLS123tommay
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506
    edited February 2018
    Disconnected now but they worked for 100 years. Probably would still work if connected.
    Retired and loving it.
  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,134
    And it will probably work for another hundred years and out last anything made today. Why can't we get something with that beauty and quality made today? I love the old stuff, the heating history section of this site is fantastic.
    EzzyT
  • Erin Holohan Haskell
    Erin Holohan Haskell Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 2,271
    The first one was manufactured by Johnson Service Company (now Johnson Controls). Here's a photo of a restored version.



    If you look at the bottom, you can see their old logo from the early 1900s.


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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506
    I always knew you were smarter than me. Thanks!
    Retired and loving it.
    Solid_Fuel_ManLS123
  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 6,506
    You asked the entire world before you asked your daughter...hmmmm...lol (my father still does that to me!)
    Nice thermostats...NO WIFI
    steve
    SuperTechPC7060
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506
    She just keeps getting stronger. Starting to scare me a bit. ;-)
    Retired and loving it.
  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 6,506
    I still like this one:

    steve
    Erin Holohan HaskellDave in QCAPC7060LS123
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506
    Nice!
    Retired and loving it.
  • Erin Holohan Haskell
    Erin Holohan Haskell Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 2,271

    You asked the entire world before you asked your daughter...hmmmm...lol (my father still does that to me!)
    Nice thermostats...NO WIFI

    LOL
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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,405
    Those are probably all Honeywell series 10 type wiring 3 wires and don't match any modern equipment, although being Johnson Controls maybe they are pneumatic.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506
    They were installed in 1902 in this house:


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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506
    edited February 2018
    It's a Broomell system.

    Whitehall. Henry Flagler's house in Palm Beach.
    Retired and loving it.
  • AMservices
    AMservices Member Posts: 610
    @Dan Holohan get any pictures of the radiators or the boiler?
    After seeing the thermostat, I want to see more.
  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 2,747
    Let's go back for fun.... Turn of the century before our last .. Having just installed an Automatic heating system in your newly built Winter mansion...You hold the Ninth Hole bragging rights in Palm Beach ....

    I have enough experience to know , that I dont know it all
  • the_donut
    the_donut Member Posts: 374
    Design temp of 47*F for that area. But I guess you need it if there aren’t many people in your spacious house.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506
    edited February 2018
    All of the rooms, with the exception of the servants' rooms, had indirect radiators. The thermostats would have controlled dampers to those rooms. Here's a radiator in a servant's room.

    The heating system was really for the art and not so much for the people. The family used the house for just a few weeks a year. It cost $1,000,000 in 1902.

    I've given up asking to go in the basement in such places.

    Retired and loving it.
  • Mark Eatherton
    Mark Eatherton Member Posts: 5,853
    Dan, she's so bright, you could call her your sun :smile:

    Erin, my first company was called Eatherton and Suns. I had two daughters at the time. I'd show up with them on a job and introduce them as my Suns (spelling it out for them of course). They LOVED it. I had them places most people don't even know exist. They still talk about it today. "See that hotel?, well there's a mechanical room up on the roof that I've been in..." And their kids are all like "Sure mom... Whatever, I believe you..."

    Enjoy!

    ME
    It's not so much a case of "You got what you paid for", as it is a matter of "You DIDN'T get what you DIDN'T pay for, and you're NOT going to get what you thought you were in the way of comfort". Borrowed from Heatboy.
    ratio
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506
    I love it, Mark. Here's to bright SUNS!
    Retired and loving it.
    Mark Eatherton
  • Mike Cascio
    Mike Cascio Member Posts: 143
    Those are some beautiful thermostats. I still use my minneapolis honeywell 77 in my house. It does a pretty good job. Fairly accurate for a bimetal unit.
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,038
    Great t-stat. Do you get questions about it being a programmable, with the clock? ;)

    I do collect those pushbutton switches, but have not seen a wall plate like that. Is that an original oldie?
    Dave in QCA
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506
    Nice, Mike! Do you know why they called it 77?
    Retired and loving it.
  • Mike Cascio
    Mike Cascio Member Posts: 143
    I tell everyone that its my nest thermostat! I keep the house setback for 16 hours a day and it flawlessly sets back and increases according to schedule. The clock keeps time within 1 minute a week.

    Dan, can I guess its 7 days a week and 7 jewels?
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506
    Mike, Honeywell named it for Red Grange, The Galloping Ghost. :-)
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  • Mike Cascio
    Mike Cascio Member Posts: 143
    I would have never guessed that! Very cool!
  • Erin Holohan Haskell
    Erin Holohan Haskell Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 2,271

    Dan, she's so bright, you could call her your sun :smile:

    Erin, my first company was called Eatherton and Suns. I had two daughters at the time. I'd show up with them on a job and introduce them as my Suns (spelling it out for them of course). They LOVED it. I had them places most people don't even know exist. They still talk about it today. "See that hotel?, well there's a mechanical room up on the roof that I've been in..." And their kids are all like "Sure mom... Whatever, I believe you..."

    Enjoy!

    ME

    @Mark Eatherton I love this!
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  • These are in the Minneapolis Swedish Institute-in the original “castle” of the founder, which we have just visited.
    Even the downspouts were fabulous!
    One pipe steam, and still working, but couldn’t get in to see the boiler!—NBC
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  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 2,747
    edited February 2018
    What kind of crazy scale is it for ? 40-00-90-20 ... What was it used for ? And the other is slightly different....
    I have enough experience to know , that I dont know it all
  • Gsmith
    Gsmith Member Posts: 431
    looks like 10 through 140 on one and 30 through 120 on the other. I think they just skipped the 1 in front of the numbers above 99.
  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 2,747
    Is it for an sauna ?
    I have enough experience to know , that I dont know it all
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,038
    The lever on top?? Would that be for a chain & pulley damper control?
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,038
    Erin, you should tell Dad about "Before You Ask..."
    But then the rest of us would not hear the rest of the story. ;)
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506
    Ha!
    Retired and loving it.
    JUGHNE
  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 2,747
    Looks like the lever is just left or right .. Thinking ...not too much action for chain...Maybe an valve ..
    I have enough experience to know , that I dont know it all
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,038
    I agree it would take a longer lever, maybe it is a on & off switch.......if electricity was available.
  • Erin Holohan Haskell
    Erin Holohan Haskell Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 2,271
    JUGHNE said:

    Erin, you should tell Dad about "Before You Ask..."
    But then the rest of us would not hear the rest of the story. ;)

    :) Of course. Holohans love telling good stories.
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  • Turbo Dave
    Turbo Dave Member Posts: 79
    edited March 2018
    You reminded me of this thermostat. I wish the photo had been better.

    Erin Holohan HaskellLS123
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,506
    Nice, Dave! Thanks for sharing.
    Retired and loving it.
  • Tim McElwain
    Tim McElwain Member Posts: 4,611
    I still service a house in the East Side of Providence on a very old street called Blackstone Blvd. The owner is a 96 year old lady who has me come by once a year to check here two Honeywell T105 (Series 10) thermostats. That is a DPST t'stat with a Chronotherm (clock) still working along with two Honeywell V155 motorized gas valve's which require a few drops of a special oil called Finol oil. She has a brand new T105 never taken out of the box just in case one of hers fails and also a V-155 gas valve still in the box. I love the old stuff. We still have old gas actuated systems in Providence that are still working.

    I also have some Republic Gyroscopic Burners still working here in RI.

    I recently was walking thorough an antique store and saw a T105 still in the box for sale. I ask the owner what he wanted for it his answer as it is in mint condition, in the original box about $500 would do it. That is more than a Nest!
    Dave in QCA