Hot Water Install, Waterbury Ct

neilc

or 10 miles north Thomaston / Terryville,
Do we know anyone Heating Help good up in central Ct ?

Buddy just bought an electric house, 2500sqft, he wants to replace with hot water heat.
He has 2 proposals, 200, and 260, K BTU.
I'm trying to tell him too many BTU.
and find him another proposal.
There are 4 bedroom and 2 bath, maybe that's driving the high BTU (Domestic) ?
I'm telling him 50-100 tops??

He wants Propane, no gas on the street.

I see Garrity and Wilson listed up in MA, don't now if they'ld work down here there.
@Charlie from wmass
@WilsonMechanical
hope I have these @s right, send me others

thanks all,
neil

Charlie from wmass

I am licensed for ct. I work throughout CT.

Bob Bona_4

About 1.5 hrs one way for me.

Charlie from wmass

So you are interested since you are so close.

Jamie Hall

@Charlie from wmass , @GW , and @Bob Bona -- all three good men. I deal with Charles, and will vouch for him personally, but I know of both Gary and Bob's work indirectly, and they're fine to. Not sure if Gary is licensed in CT. Take your pick!

neilc

thanks guys for the quick replies,

@Bob Bona, you serious about driving 1.5 hours ??
or is Charlie teasing you

any comment on BTU range?
as in, definitely, maybe, not necessarily, too high?
it's a basic salt box 2 floor rectangle,
and including doing domestic also,

too little information, right?

Bob Bona_4

I agree with you Neil, your guesstimate is in the ballpark. I'm in Norwalk, it's a hike, but I'd be willing to offer a rough estimate. PM if you'd like. Ty, Jamie.

GW

I'm a lightweight, 30 minutes of driving unless it's a momma of a job. Just MA licence

The BTU numbers are off the charts

Gary

Charlie from wmass

Do they have snow melt? Lol

neilc

no, no snow melt, (maybe a 30 ft driveway, )

thanks everyone for confirming my BTUs concern

I'm going to show this thread to my friend and get back to you guys in ~24 hrs,

neilc

GIGO,,,
turns out the 240K is actually a Navien NCB 240, at 18 - 120K heating, and 18 - 200K domestic.
http://us.navien.com/Product/Category-NCB Series/Page1/Details/27
still might be a little over but no where near as bad as 240 straight up.
And it turns out that he was signing as I was writing,
so unless anyone still wants to discuss a smaller unit,
I'm thinking this one is closed.

Bob Bona_4

I see no problem with using that combi. Hopefully ODR will be utilized. I use them and the NHB series and so far so good. Thanks for the followup.

neilc

my buddy is a horsepower hotrod guy.

and while I think he could get away with the 180, 80heating, 150domestic, (2 bathrooms / showers)
I am not
a, a heating / domestic pro,
b, convinced my self,
c, wanting to be wrong,
d, arguing against a little extra horsepower,
(I like to go fast too)
So, he'll be warm, and have his hot water too.

he said he saw the 240 would run 2 showers, and dishwasher on the Navien site, and the smaller ones didn't read the same,
I can't find that looking around there this morning

Charlie from wmass

As I tell customers "It's your house. As long as it won't be against code or physics you get final call"

Bob Bona_4

I've had to make that call too, in a few cottage jobs, 1100 Sq ft or so, 1.5 bath, no tub. No probs there with the 180. This house however, it's not on the radar.

neilc

@Bob Bona
are you agreeing with Charlie,

Charlie from wmass said:

As I tell customers "It's your house. As long as it won't be against code or physics you get final call"

or suggesting the 180 might be too small now?

Bob Bona said:

This house however, it's not on the radar.

GW

I'm a tank guy, combination is fine if there is no alternative, my opinion of course

Bob Bona_4

I'm saying I wouldn't entertain the 180 for this particular house.

Charlie from wmass

This illustrates why I am with GW. I avoid combi units unless no other option. Tanks allow smaller boilers. Make sure they get a good gas supply. Add a stove and gas dryer then the gas fire place and there goes the 250mbtu through the meter plus some.

neilc

the domestic, correct ?

Charlie from wmass

Yes the domestic.

Solid_Fuel_Man

Ino my opinion indirect tanks are less expensive to own and operate as well. How long will that FPHX last with that diverting valve in the boiler? A tank leaves space for junk (scale) to settle out of the water, and doesn't make the boiler fire balls to the walls every time someone opens a tap to wash their hands. Also a front load washer can drive a combi insane with short calls on-off-on-off etc.