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Hot Water Install, Waterbury Ct

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neilc
neilc Member Posts: 2,711
edited March 2017 in THE MAIN WALL
or 10 miles north Thomaston / Terryville,
Do we know anyone Heating Help good up in central Ct ?

Buddy just bought an electric house, 2500sqft, he wants to replace with hot water heat.
He has 2 proposals, 200, and 260, K BTU.
I'm trying to tell him too many BTU.
and find him another proposal.
There are 4 bedroom and 2 bath, maybe that's driving the high BTU (Domestic) ?
I'm telling him 50-100 tops??

He wants Propane, no gas on the street.

I see Garrity and Wilson listed up in MA, don't now if they'ld work down here there.
@Charlie from wmass
@WilsonMechanical
hope I have these @s right, send me others

thanks all,
neil
known to beat dead horses

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  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,331
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    I am licensed for ct. I work throughout CT.
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

    cell # 413-841-6726
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/charles-garrity-plumbing-and-heating
    kcopp
  • Bob Bona_4
    Bob Bona_4 Member Posts: 2,083
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    About 1.5 hrs one way for me.
  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,331
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    So you are interested since you are so close.
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

    cell # 413-841-6726
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/charles-garrity-plumbing-and-heating
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 23,527
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    @Charlie from wmass , @GW , and @Bob Bona -- all three good men. I deal with Charles, and will vouch for him personally, but I know of both Gary and Bob's work indirectly, and they're fine to. Not sure if Gary is licensed in CT. Take your pick!
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    Charlie from wmass
  • neilc
    neilc Member Posts: 2,711
    edited March 2017
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    thanks guys for the quick replies,

    @Bob Bona, you serious about driving 1.5 hours ??
    or is Charlie teasing you

    any comment on BTU range?
    as in, definitely, maybe, not necessarily, too high?
    it's a basic salt box 2 floor rectangle,
    and including doing domestic also,

    too little information, right?
    known to beat dead horses
  • Bob Bona_4
    Bob Bona_4 Member Posts: 2,083
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    I agree with you Neil, your guesstimate is in the ballpark. I'm in Norwalk, it's a hike, but I'd be willing to offer a rough estimate. PM if you'd like. Ty, Jamie.
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,726
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    I'm a lightweight, 30 minutes of driving unless it's a momma of a job. Just MA licence

    The BTU numbers are off the charts

    Gary
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    kcopp
  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,331
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    Do they have snow melt? Lol
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

    cell # 413-841-6726
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/charles-garrity-plumbing-and-heating
    kcoppSolid_Fuel_Man
  • neilc
    neilc Member Posts: 2,711
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    no, no snow melt, (maybe a 30 ft driveway, )

    thanks everyone for confirming my BTUs concern

    I'm going to show this thread to my friend and get back to you guys in ~24 hrs,
    known to beat dead horses
    Charlie from wmass
  • neilc
    neilc Member Posts: 2,711
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    GIGO,,,
    turns out the 240K is actually a Navien NCB 240, at 18 - 120K heating, and 18 - 200K domestic.
    http://us.navien.com/Product/Category-NCB Series/Page1/Details/27
    still might be a little over but no where near as bad as 240 straight up.
    And it turns out that he was signing as I was writing,
    so unless anyone still wants to discuss a smaller unit,
    I'm thinking this one is closed.
    known to beat dead horses
  • Bob Bona_4
    Bob Bona_4 Member Posts: 2,083
    edited March 2017
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    I see no problem with using that combi. Hopefully ODR will be utilized. I use them and the NHB series and so far so good. Thanks for the followup.
  • neilc
    neilc Member Posts: 2,711
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    my buddy is a horsepower hotrod guy.

    and while I think he could get away with the 180, 80heating, 150domestic, (2 bathrooms / showers)
    I am not
    a, a heating / domestic pro,
    b, convinced my self,
    c, wanting to be wrong,
    d, arguing against a little extra horsepower,
    (I like to go fast too)
    So, he'll be warm, and have his hot water too.
    :)
    he said he saw the 240 would run 2 showers, and dishwasher on the Navien site, and the smaller ones didn't read the same,
    I can't find that looking around there this morning
    known to beat dead horses
  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,331
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    As I tell customers "It's your house. As long as it won't be against code or physics you get final call"
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

    cell # 413-841-6726
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/charles-garrity-plumbing-and-heating
    lchmbPaul S_3
  • Bob Bona_4
    Bob Bona_4 Member Posts: 2,083
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    I've had to make that call too, in a few cottage jobs, 1100 Sq ft or so, 1.5 bath, no tub. No probs there with the 180. This house however, it's not on the radar.
  • neilc
    neilc Member Posts: 2,711
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    @Bob Bona
    are you agreeing with Charlie,

    As I tell customers "It's your house. As long as it won't be against code or physics you get final call"

    or suggesting the 180 might be too small now?
    Bob Bona said:

    This house however, it's not on the radar.

    known to beat dead horses
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,726
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    I'm a tank guy, combination is fine if there is no alternative, my opinion of course
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    Charlie from wmassZmanSolid_Fuel_ManBrewbeer
  • Bob Bona_4
    Bob Bona_4 Member Posts: 2,083
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    I'm saying I wouldn't entertain the 180 for this particular house.
  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,331
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    This illustrates why I am with GW. I avoid combi units unless no other option. Tanks allow smaller boilers. Make sure they get a good gas supply. Add a stove and gas dryer then the gas fire place and there goes the 250mbtu through the meter plus some.
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

    cell # 413-841-6726
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/charles-garrity-plumbing-and-heating
    GWZmanSolid_Fuel_Man
  • neilc
    neilc Member Posts: 2,711
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    the domestic, correct ?
    known to beat dead horses
  • Charlie from wmass
    Charlie from wmass Member Posts: 4,331
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    Yes the domestic.
    Cost is what you spend , value is what you get.

    cell # 413-841-6726
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/charles-garrity-plumbing-and-heating
  • Solid_Fuel_Man
    Solid_Fuel_Man Member Posts: 2,646
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    Ino my opinion indirect tanks are less expensive to own and operate as well. How long will that FPHX last with that diverting valve in the boiler? A tank leaves space for junk (scale) to settle out of the water, and doesn't make the boiler fire balls to the walls every time someone opens a tap to wash their hands. Also a front load washer can drive a combi insane with short calls on-off-on-off etc.
    Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!
    Charlie from wmassGWBrewbeerMikeAmann