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Utica SSC Buffer Tank Add...

john p_2
john p_2 Member Posts: 367
in Gas Heating
Just completed my buffer tank add to my system. While it was down I added a S&R zone for possible radiant zone in the kitchen, replaced hand made cush clamps, re-piped water feed to the boiler and cleaned most copper/brass piping & fittings then sprayed with high temp clear coat.

The diamond plate is nice but a pain when soldering - any flux or solder that hit it take the finish away immediately.

Pipe, fittings & hardware prices are really getting crazy...I even considered doing all vent & relief piping for the buffer tank in stainless steel which I probably c
ould've saved 30%+ versus using brass - but aesthetics mean a lot to me!

Many thanks to John Langan and Rich McGrath for their design & help with this all the way thru. Thanks to Jason from Utica for taking time to visit and resetting my boiler control.
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,344
    @john p Wow that is a gorgeous and spectacular set up that you have there.
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  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Thanks Ezzy, some say it's a little over the top but I love it.
  • Harvey Ramer
    Harvey Ramer Member Posts: 2,261
    That really looks nice!!
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,344
    It's your home so you can go overtop as you please. It really looks awesome
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,344
    It's your home so you can go overtop as you please. It really looks awesome
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  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    2700 sq ft. Home in NJ...Gas bills averaged $91 last winter and are only supposed to get better with the buffer tank!
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,344
    It will get a lot better with the buffer tank
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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,281
    edited September 2016
    @john p beautiful job.....whats the high temp clear coat you use....where would i buy that....i hate when i go back to my jobs and the copper is dull...and is that a combination condensate pump and nuetralizer?
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,344
    @Paul S yes thats a combo neutralizer and condensation pump made by Saniflo
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  • njtommy
    njtommy Member Posts: 1,105
    Wow awesome job!
  • Bio
    Bio Member Posts: 278
    edited September 2016
    We've seen some very nice installations, but this one has to be up there on the top, very nice work !
    Paul S_3njtommy
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Bio, thanks alot. Not bad for an out of work pipefitter!?!?
    njtommy
  • njtommy
    njtommy Member Posts: 1,105
    @john p Are you a Union pipe fitter?
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,555
    John, what was the outcome of the lockout issue that you were having?
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • Rich_49
    Rich_49 Member Posts: 2,769
    edited September 2016
    Bob ,

    Cause was faulty flame sensor . Jason M came with the newly designed sensor and everything has been fine since . He also installed a new board and raised the minimum fan speed



    You didn't get what you didn't pay for and it will never be what you thought it would .
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  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Tommy, yes union pipe fitter.
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,555
    edited September 2016
    Awesome looking install. I might have a pic of it blown up and framed and hung on my wall. I'll put a tag on it with your info.

    Where did you get the plastic end caps and the white unistrut?
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • Rich_49
    Rich_49 Member Posts: 2,769
    Not sure where JohnP got his Bob but McMaster Carr carries a nice selection of them in rubber and various colors .
    You didn't get what you didn't pay for and it will never be what you thought it would .
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    732-751-1560
    Serving most of New Jersey, Eastern Pa .
    Consultation, Design & Installation anywhere
    Rich McGrath 732-581-3833
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    White unistrut I found on Craigslist originally then also saw it on eBay. I think both AD's have been removed but I know it is still for sale. It was at a sign company in Hamilton, NJ. I believe they are only 8' long but are white powder coated and were $7 or $8 each. The end caps are on eBay (best price) or places like Fastenal or Grainger. They come in different colors as well.
  • njtommy
    njtommy Member Posts: 1,105
    Nice John. I'm a Service Tech out of local 322.
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Unistrut was bought at Future Signs Co., Hamilton, NJ
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Tommy, I'm " A" book out of 274.
    njtommy
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Couple of pics just prior to installing the buffer tank.




  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,405
    You can go right to the source for those caps, this company will send samples if you only need a few. I've been using aluminum strut for my display boards and product cases. Very easy to work and it stays bright. You can also get stainless and fiberglass strut.


    https://www.caplugs.com

    Nice work, enter it in the Caleffi Excellence content, for a chance to win an I-pad or trip to Italy


    http://us.caleffiexcellence.com
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    Rich_49
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Hot Rod - Unistrut, unbelievable product. Wish I invented it! Lol

    Wasn't aware of the Caleffi contest, thanks. Stop putting ideas in my head...Aluminum strut, hmmm.
    Rich_49
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,405
    B-Line has this clever 4 sided strut out now, it may be offered in various metals at some point also. Nice to be able to attach on any side.

    http://www.cooperindustries.com/content/public/en/b-line/brands/4Dimension.html
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Nice stuff....appears someone is listening to the needs of the guys installing Unistrut. Sharp company
  • njtommy
    njtommy Member Posts: 1,105
    Even the angle brackets for the unistrut are way nicer the. What I've seen on the shelf of the supply houses.

    Not bad for an A guy. Lol.
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Yeah they're a little bit of an older model not even sure if they still make them. I did find them with the gusset but the gusset was straight not rounded like I have. I found a guy selling two on eBay, so I guess I was lucky in order to keep it all uniform.
  • njtommy
    njtommy Member Posts: 1,105
    Cool I will keep my eye out for them in the future.

    So what type of radiation are you feeding with 6 zones?
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Slant Fin baseboard in the house and unit heater w/hot water coil in the garage. All stats kept at 68 degrees, no setback and gas bills last year averaged $91. Very happy...
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Having a weird issue with green indicator light flickering...anyone have or seen this ?
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Strange flickering indicator light....
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Flickering light video
    EzzyT
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Sorry guys tried to upload the video but having issues. It's on YouTube under Flickering indicator light...
  • njtommy
    njtommy Member Posts: 1,105
    Just check all your wiring and transformers. Does it do it with the Pc700 plugged in only or?
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    No, the PC-700 hasn't been programed.
  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Todd from ECR has contacted me and believes the flickering light may be a bad light.


    Also, I just installed an new expansion tank and insulated the sensors strapped to the S&R piping. Cable connecting the boiler reset and the zone control panel has been installed and encased in vinyl flex tubing....other than the quarry tile I believe the system is complete.
    njtommyIronman
  • Aaron_in_Maine
    Aaron_in_Maine Member Posts: 315
    The flickering light is common I have about a dozen of these units out there and the green power light flickers on all of them.

    There was an error rendering this rich post.

  • john p_2
    john p_2 Member Posts: 367
    Aaron, thanks. It appears to be getting dimmer & dimmer as time goes by. Almost no light now. Have you ever seen them completely out, not lit at all? Doesn't affect boiler operating if it does go out does it?

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