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gerry gill
gerry gill Member Posts: 3,011
Burnham IN9 install on a Milvaco System.




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Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

Mark EathertonSteve MinnichkcoppSWEI

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  • BobC
    BobC Member Posts: 5,202
    Nice job, I'm sure they will enjoy the fuel savings.

    Bob
    Smith G8-3 with EZ Gas @ 90,000 BTU, Single pipe steam
    Vaporstat with a 12oz cut-out and 4oz cut-in
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  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,163
    Beautiful work as always Gerry
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  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 11,788
    Beautiful work.
    But boy do those 2" risers look tiny on an IN9, eh?

    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,011
    ChrisJ said:

    Beautiful work.
    But boy do those 2" risers look tiny on an IN9, eh?

    yes, they do..but it seems to work for their boilers so i guess they figure why argue with success..
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    ChrisJ
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 14,698
    I'm sure this will work as good as it looks- beautifully.
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  • rick in Alaska
    rick in Alaska Member Posts: 1,209
    Two questions: how do you keep the pipe dope cleaned off after threading in to the fittings, and what do you use for a pipe wrench to not mark the fittings up?
    Nice clean looking job.
    Rick
    Roohollah
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 11,788

    Two questions: how do you keep the pipe dope cleaned off after threading in to the fittings, and what do you use for a pipe wrench to not mark the fittings up?
    Nice clean looking job.
    Rick

    I'm betting he uses very little tape and dope, so none ends up in the exposed threads. Also, I *think* cast iron fittings don't usually show teeth marks like malleable. Never paid attention honestly, but that's my guess.
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,011

    Two questions: how do you keep the pipe dope cleaned off after threading in to the fittings, and what do you use for a pipe wrench to not mark the fittings up?
    Nice clean looking job.
    Rick

    actually i do use alot of blue monster thread tape covered in megaloc pipe thread dope. But my personal pet peeve is seeing pipe thread compound on a completed install. Since i was on this job myself, i figured i would lead by example and spent about two hours with a razor blade and a wire brush. I know...its anal..but its a personal psychological issue..i don't enforce it with the guys, but i figure if they watch me doing it, it may rub off...maybe..as for pipe wrenches, we just use standard wrenches..we take them off to reposition, we don't ratchet them..maybe thats why the marks are minimal.
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    Steve Minnichrick in Alaska
  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,518
    Beautiful Job. I love it!
  • The Steam Whisperer
    The Steam Whisperer Member Posts: 719
    Looks great.....Which I expected nothing less! What's that pipe near the wall that looks like a false water line, but reversed.
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  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,011

    Looks great.....Which I expected nothing less! What's that pipe near the wall that looks like a false water line, but reversed.

    That is a false water line. The vent doesn't matter where it is placed as long as its on the top, as its function is just to provide a siphon break so one doesn't get the effect of a 'bucket flush' on a toilet during the initial cold start up heavy condensate load. This is a vapor system, and on vapor systems we run the siphon break pipe up to the ceiling as an open pipe, (no air vent needed).
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  • The Steam Whisperer
    The Steam Whisperer Member Posts: 719
    So there is no balance pipe connected to the system side of the loop to equalize pressure on the return? It looks like you are just using the stacked water in the pipe to equalize the pressure on the end of the return.....I 've done that before.
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  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,011
    Correct. Hows the steam business in Chicago these days?
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  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,329
    Is that water feed in gal?
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,011
    yes, gallons..hydrolevel vxt-24
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  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 4,656
    Is that old Vaporstat off the old boiler? Is it more accurate than the new ones?
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
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  • The Steam Whisperer
    The Steam Whisperer Member Posts: 719
    Doing pretty well. Looking at some pretty big projects over the next couple years and growing repeat business. Making a big ad push to expand up in the North Shore.... hope it pays off. Running ads in Ravinia, Angie's List and the Merc. magazine. Found out that Yelp is a waste of money...thier categories are too generic so you end up paying for a whole bunch of hits that are not in your field. With Yelp you pay by the Click...big waste of money. Beginning to break into the bigger high rise market on LSD, so that is promising and requires a lot of extra labor time due to lack of on site parking.
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  • Danny Scully
    Danny Scully Member Posts: 1,329
    No I meant is the piping galvanized lol
  • Robert O'Connor_12
    Robert O'Connor_12 Member Posts: 728
    Real nice job!
  • Gordo
    Gordo Member Posts: 761
    You, sir, are a steely-eyed steam man!

    Liking the old old style vaporstat. If they are off, do you try to adjust them?

    Like the use of the 1/2" stainless piping around the vxt.

    Interesting that stainless is now cheaper than brass in many cases, now that brass is no longer a "Californian killer".
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  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,011

    No I meant is the piping galvanized lol

    lol..i'm sorry Danny- i had a brain traf..we started doing these feeders in stainless as Gordo picked up on when Steve determined that the feeders were significantly more stable when piped with ridgid pipe..but we didn't want to use black for it..i guess its kind of obvious in retrospect..now i wonder why we ever piped them directly with copper..i guess another brain traf :D
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    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,011
    Gordo said:

    You, sir, are a steely-eyed steam man!

    Liking the old old style vaporstat. If they are off, do you try to adjust them?

    Like the use of the 1/2" stainless piping around the vxt.

    Interesting that stainless is now cheaper than brass in many cases, now that brass is no longer a "Californian killer".

    Hi Gordo- yes i will tinker with the vaporstats. Especially the new ones which tend to not work. I figure if they aren't working i have nothing to loss by employing the 'what happens if i turn this screw ' principal..lol..
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    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,011
    KC_Jones said:

    Is that old Vaporstat off the old boiler? Is it more accurate than the new ones?

    Hi KC- yes, that old vaporstat is off the old boiler. We will reuse a mercury switch everytime as the new units suck...er..i mean need more R&D :)
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

    SWEI
  • ttekushan_3
    ttekushan_3 Member Posts: 939
    Wow. Exceptional work. It seems almost as if you've done this sort of thing before. :smile:
    terry
  • SWEI
    SWEI Member Posts: 7,356
    Gordo said:

    Interesting that stainless is now cheaper than brass in many cases

    Around here, 304SS nipples and fittings sell for just under half the price of LF brass.

    Side note: There appear to be benefits from using both tape and dope on threaded SS-SS connections. SS-brass, SS-steel, and SS-copper all work pretty well with either or IME.