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First day piping the KHN's

Steve Minnich
Steve Minnich Member Posts: 2,661
And it's the first time I've ever used this model. I really like it so far; well thought out.

Anyone else been using them?

Yesterday, I had to build a 14' wide and 10' high wall so I'd have a decent place for the near boiler piping. Behind the new wall is a 125 year old stone wall.
Steve Minnich
Minnich Hydronic Consulting & Design, LLC
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Paul S_3GordyIronmanjonny884JohnpipeSWEI

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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,257
    edited June 2016
    i have 2 jobs going in in mid july....im using this model....i like the minimum firing rate ....i will be using the 0-10v option on the boiler pumps....i used the WHNs i really like them...these KHNs have great turndown ratios for micro zones....i love seeing your work @Stephen Minnich
    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
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    Steve Minnich
  • njtommy
    njtommy Member Posts: 1,105
    Yes and loved them did two 290-300btus.
    Steve Minnich
  • Steve Minnich
    Steve Minnich Member Posts: 2,661
    Thanks for the input. The WHN's are awesome. I've installed plenty of those and never had issues, not even with LP. I owe that to Ironman. He gave me some really helpful tips on how to dial in the LP units.
    You can't see it but theres a 4" offset in the wall(s) I built so it looks a little funky. There's actually 45*s there but you can't see them in the picture.
    We're having a heckuva time pulling the plugs on the radiators. Or, I should say Tim is. I haven't jumped in yet because I've been in the boiler room, but it probably won't be any easier for me.
    Steve Minnich
    Minnich Hydronic Consulting & Design, LLC
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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,257
    edited June 2016
    i see the 45s ...there right after the tees where the boiler on the right ties into....these rads where used for steam before?....i would just buy the impact wrench and try may save you some time...
    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    [email protected]
    ASMHVACNYC.COM
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/asm-mechanical-company
  • Steve Minnich
    Steve Minnich Member Posts: 2,661
    Thanks @Paul S - I'm going to stop and buy one on the way to the job tomorrow.
    Yes, steam.
    Steve Minnich
    Minnich Hydronic Consulting & Design, LLC
    [email protected]
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,257
    Good luck....homerun system?
    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    [email protected]
    ASMHVACNYC.COM
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/asm-mechanical-company
  • Steve Minnich
    Steve Minnich Member Posts: 2,661
    Yes sir.
    Steve Minnich
    Minnich Hydronic Consulting & Design, LLC
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  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,257
    edited June 2016
    Nice....I have seen you use Viega Fostapex....my supply house has started carrying it with all the fittings....should i start using it?are you sing Trvs?or zone valves?
    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    [email protected]
    ASMHVACNYC.COM
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/asm-mechanical-company
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 6,470
    Looks great, as usual. I see you still haven't gone PP yet?
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
    Steve Minnich
  • rick in Alaska
    rick in Alaska Member Posts: 1,222
    Be very careful on the gas hookup that you don't stress the pipe. If you look at where the assembly ties in to the intake manifold, you will see it is a very weak casting spot. I put in an 085 a couple of weeks ago and could not get it to light. Finally noticed a crack on the intake that was sucking in air. Appears to be from factory(????).
    The intake manifold needs to be beefed up where the gas line hooks to it. Apparently, there have been a couple other ones around here do the same thing.
    I still have not been able to get back to really watch it much, but so far it is a nice unit.
    P.s. The front display needs to have a different "faceplate" on it as part of the display is hidden behind the graphics.
    Rick
    IronmanSWEI
  • Steve Minnich
    Steve Minnich Member Posts: 2,661
    @ironman - Great to hear from you, Bob. No PP. Something is stopping from making the jump even though I keep saying I'm going to. Maybe on the next church? That one is 3" pipe.
    Steve Minnich
    Minnich Hydronic Consulting & Design, LLC
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  • Steve Minnich
    Steve Minnich Member Posts: 2,661
    @rick in Alaska - thanks for the heads up. Good to know.
    Steve Minnich
    Minnich Hydronic Consulting & Design, LLC
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  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 6,470
    What's that plug for on the iso valve above the circ? Haven't seen that before.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • Steve Minnich
    Steve Minnich Member Posts: 2,661
    @Ironman - That is a Jomar filter ball valve. You close the valve, remove the plug, and the screen spins with the valve. It is right there to clean out. No water lost. I love them.

    @Paul S - No TRV's on this one. Just one big Sanctuary zone and then a lower level zone.

    Steve Minnich
    Minnich Hydronic Consulting & Design, LLC
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    Ironman
  • jonny88
    jonny88 Member Posts: 1,139
    Thanks for sharing Stephen it is always fantastic to see your work.
    Steve Minnich
  • Steve Minnich
    Steve Minnich Member Posts: 2,661
    Thanks jonny88 - I wish more would post pictures. I learn something from every one.
    Steve Minnich
    Minnich Hydronic Consulting & Design, LLC
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    jonny88Canucker
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,167
    Beautiful work as always Stephen
    Steve Minnich
  • Steve Minnich
    Steve Minnich Member Posts: 2,661

    Steve Minnich
    Minnich Hydronic Consulting & Design, LLC
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    jonny88njtommyIronmanCanucker
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,257
    beautiful work @Stephen Minnich
    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    [email protected]
    ASMHVACNYC.COM
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/asm-mechanical-company
    Steve Minnich
  • Harvey Ramer
    Harvey Ramer Member Posts: 2,217
    Looks very nice Stephen!
  • Steve Minnich
    Steve Minnich Member Posts: 2,661
    Thank you, Harvey!
    Steve Minnich
    Minnich Hydronic Consulting & Design, LLC
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  • tim smith
    tim smith Member Posts: 2,389
    Really nice looking work Stephen, always appreciate other companies caring about their workmanship. We always do.
    Steve Minnich
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 14,873
    Real nice! I like seeing a proper venting material used, and a HydroSep.
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    Steve Minnich
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 6,470
    Stephen, you'll want to get those fernco reducing couplings on the vertical section of the intake pipe: they'll trap water if there's condensation in the intake.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
    Steve Minnich