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Dave0176
Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,172
Built a 4" header for the next job.
DL Mechanical LLC Heating, Cooling and Plumbing 732-266-5386
NJ Master HVACR Lic# 4630
Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving the residents of New Jersey
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  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,031
    sweet! i likey
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,518
    Beautiful!
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,201
    very nice Dave!
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 15,329
    Nice! What's it going on?
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • Dave0176
    Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,172
    EG55 Weil McLain
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating, Cooling and Plumbing 732-266-5386
    NJ Master HVACR Lic# 4630
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving the residents of New Jersey
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc

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  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 16,272
    nice wrenching! Don't slip and damage that scooter :)

    Do you get large fittings like that from Supplyhouse.com?
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,201
    Ive gotten 6" steam fittings from them before
  • Abracadabra
    Abracadabra Member Posts: 1,948
    nice... naked header porn
    SWEI
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 15,961
    Next year's Christmas photo-card!
    Retired and loving it.
    Dave in QCA
  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,450
    Dave0176 said:

    Built a 4" header for the next job.

    Very Nice!!
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  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,450
    hot rod said:

    nice wrenching! Don't slip and damage that scooter :)

    Do you get large fittings like that from Supplyhouse.com?

    Supplyhouse.com is becoming the Amazon of the wholesale trade.
    To learn more about this professional, click here to visit their ad in Find A Contractor.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 12,812

    hot rod said:

    nice wrenching! Don't slip and damage that scooter :)

    Do you get large fittings like that from Supplyhouse.com?

    Supplyhouse.com is becoming the Amazon of the wholesale trade.
    My whole house, steam, natural gas and water is practically plumbed from them.
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
    Robert O'Brienhituw2x4
  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,450
    edited December 2015
    Never did business with them until a couple weeks ago. I'm close enough to pickup at their warehouse. Needed some Buderus TRV's ASAP. No one has them, have to be ordered. Supplyhouse has them in stock, order online and drive over there. They have a counter setup for pickups staffed by a very pleasant guy who seemed happy to see me, 60 seconds later,I'm walking out with the TRV's. Contrast that with a pickup at LI's biggest wholesaler, you are generally ignored and treated as an annoyance. They have a better mousetrap
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  • Dave0176
    Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,172
    I usually get most of my material from them, the price is right, my supplier is mabe a smudge cheaper however since their out of state I pay no tax, so it evens out. What I like most is their parts are all brand new fresh, unlike the local supply house were some parts could be rusty from sitting on the shelf. And their quick usually next day delivery.
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating, Cooling and Plumbing 732-266-5386
    NJ Master HVACR Lic# 4630
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving the residents of New Jersey
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc

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  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 16,272
    Dave0176 said:

    I usually get most of my material from them, the price is right, my supplier is mabe a smudge cheaper however since their out of state I pay no tax, so it evens out. What I like most is their parts are all brand new fresh, unlike the local supply house were some parts could be rusty from sitting on the shelf. And their quick usually next day delivery.


    Free freight above $200.00? It's nice to shop 24/7 also.

    You can shop prices better at Amazon, and with Amazon Prime, free freight.
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,201
    We do several hundreds of thousands of dollars of purchasing with them yearly. There customer service is great and as Robert O'Brien mentioned there pick up counter at the warehouse is a breeze to work with. They stock a ton of Caleffi products which is great. There's only one wholesaler in my area of NJ that stocks some Caleffi products. Free shipping on $100 or more orders.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 12,812
    hot rod said:

    Dave0176 said:

    I usually get most of my material from them, the price is right, my supplier is mabe a smudge cheaper however since their out of state I pay no tax, so it evens out. What I like most is their parts are all brand new fresh, unlike the local supply house were some parts could be rusty from sitting on the shelf. And their quick usually next day delivery.


    Free freight above $200.00? It's nice to shop 24/7 also.

    You can shop prices better at Amazon, and with Amazon Prime, free freight.
    We've got Prime but I've rarely used Amazon for anything plumbing related. Maybe it's just because supplyhouse has a much nicer search setup for it.

    The original reason I started using pexsupply (at that time) was I was tired of the garbage homer and lowes has at not so cheap prices. I found good stuff I could get online and being in NJ UPS ground gets it to me fast. I don't know the total but I'm sure I've blown over 3 grand at supplyhouse.com since 2011. I'm sure pros can bury that number in a short time but for a homeowner I think it's decent.
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • Dave0176
    Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,172
    Since everyone likes the header porn i got a few more pics since I put a few more fittings on, but this will be it as it's going to get too heavy to maneuver lol
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating, Cooling and Plumbing 732-266-5386
    NJ Master HVACR Lic# 4630
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving the residents of New Jersey
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  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 12,812
    You know what that shop really needs?
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 15,961
    A hundred years from now . . .
    Retired and loving it.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 12,812
    No, today.
    :)
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 15,961
    LOL
    Retired and loving it.
  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,564
    A wonderful creation, but I wonder if a welded drop header with threaded risers, and drops from the boiler would have been more cost effective.--NBC
  • Abracadabra
    Abracadabra Member Posts: 1,948
    at 4" i think it's a tossup using threaded vs. welded. With 6"-10" headers welded using threadolets as needed to get swing joints does it for me.
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,201
    I'll go with threaded joints over welded any day of the week.
  • Abracadabra
    Abracadabra Member Posts: 1,948
    EzzyT said:

    I'll go with threaded joints over welded any day of the week.

    @EzzyT on stuff 4" and below sure, but why would you say that with larger stuff?
  • unclejohn
    unclejohn Member Posts: 1,757
    The two fittings with the unions connect to the boiler risers right? Shouldn't the elbow with the nipple and cap pointing down be a reducer ell?
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,201
    Expansion and contraction which creates some movement even micro inches. Threaded joint have the capability for that moment with out leaking unlike welded joints don't they will eventually snap. I was taught the old fashion way and a threaded piping schematic looks so much nicer then a welded one. I'm not saying I haven't seen beautiful welded piping which I have seen plenty of.
  • jonny88
    jonny88 Member Posts: 1,139
    @unclejohn why should it be a reducer ell.I much rather the way he is going to pipe it.Beautiful work.
  • unclejohn
    unclejohn Member Posts: 1,757
    Isn't the equalizer always smaller then the header. I see in his latest post that the pipe size drops after he turns back to the returns.
  • Abracadabra
    Abracadabra Member Posts: 1,948
    EzzyT said:

    Expansion and contraction which creates some movement even micro inches. Threaded joint have the capability for that moment with out leaking unlike welded joints don't they will eventually snap. I was taught the old fashion way and a threaded piping schematic looks so much nicer then a welded one. I'm not saying I haven't seen beautiful welded piping which I have seen plenty of.

    @EzzyT I create welded headers with threadolets which still allow for swing joints on a drop header.

  • Dave0176
    Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,172
    unclejohn said:

    Isn't the equalizer always smaller then the header. I see in his latest post that the pipe size drops after he turns back to the returns.

    Exactly.....,,,
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating, Cooling and Plumbing 732-266-5386
    NJ Master HVACR Lic# 4630
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving the residents of New Jersey
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    jonny88
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 12,812
    edited January 2016
    The equalizer has a minimum size but no maximum. It can be the size of the header if someone wants or even bigger. As long as it's 1 1/2" or larger and drains well everyone's happy.
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • jonny88
    jonny88 Member Posts: 1,139
    And Chrisj how many equalizers are piped in11/4.Even though I believe every manual asks for a minimum a 11/2.Well I am pretty sure Dave will be just fine with his.....
  • Dave0176
    Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,172
    I usually run my headers like this, I like to drop full size then reduce down to 2". Even though I run a horizontal pipe it's pitched slightly and water drains and never had any issues with it this way .
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating, Cooling and Plumbing 732-266-5386
    NJ Master HVACR Lic# 4630
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving the residents of New Jersey
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  • hituw2x4
    hituw2x4 Member Posts: 19
    What's the reasoning for gate valves on steam take offs, I see it all the time and wondered why? Does it have something to do with the silicon in ball valves deteriorating from the steam?
  • Dave0176
    Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,172
    hituw2x4 said:

    What's the reasoning for gate valves on steam take offs, I see it all the time and wondered why? Does it have something to do with the silicon in ball valves deteriorating from the steam?

    You can run a ball valve no problem, this is a preference, I like gate valves, plus they look nostalgic.
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating, Cooling and Plumbing 732-266-5386
    NJ Master HVACR Lic# 4630
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving the residents of New Jersey
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  • unclejohn
    unclejohn Member Posts: 1,757
    I only see 5 beers and one is a Ultra? was the wife helping?
    KC_Jones