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ERF
ERF Member Posts: 51
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what is wrong with this Tigerloop installation?

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  • ratio
    ratio Member Posts: 3,626
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    Hmm. Looks like a Big Box special. The supply house was out of soft copper so someone had to hit the plumbing section on the way home?
    Just a guess by a washed up electrician! It's hard to be sure without reading the tags, but the string of fitting to get the one to the other tells a story.
    Bob Bona_4
  • Bob Bona_4
    Bob Bona_4 Member Posts: 2,083
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    I put the vac gauge on the wrong side, it was a long night! Let's set up a service call :)
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,061
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    Just another electrician here, (a long time since servicing oil burners), but those look like soda-pop fountain hoses if they are not lav/dishwasher water supplies. :(
    Bob Bona_4
  • Bob Bona_4
    Bob Bona_4 Member Posts: 2,083
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    Oh you guys. Those are 36" Westwood UL listed flex oil lines. So the burner can swing out.
  • ERF
    ERF Member Posts: 51
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    Jughne , those are flex lines like Bob said not soda pop fountain hoses. Bob is a great guy and he will be coming back to take care of the problem. System worked great and kept my house in heat during the bitter cold we had last winter.
    Bob Bona_4RobG
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,061
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    Good thing there is no more oil in my area ;) Haven't touched one in 15 years.
  • ratio
    ratio Member Posts: 3,626
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    Sorry, guys! You wanted a guess, so I made one... Didn't mean to accuse anyone here of lousy work.
    Bob Bona_4JUGHNE
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,676
    edited September 2015
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    I'm confused.
    So what's wrong with it that Bobs coming back to fix?


    I've never understood why so many oil burners are piped with soft copper so you can't swing them open without disconnecting the line and making a disgusting mess that won't stop smelling for the next few decades. My Burnham V8 had a flex line and it seemed to work fine although some knucklehead hard wired the burner instead of using the proper plug so you had to unhook all of that.


    EDIT : oh, the gauge is on the wrong side of the filter... isn't it..
    Could happen to anyone especially after a long day.
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
    Bob Bona_4
  • Bob Bona_4
    Bob Bona_4 Member Posts: 2,083
    edited September 2015
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    Was discombobulated bc partly into it I discovered my orbital flare tool was broken. Got to be after 6, frigid outside/snow. Bless his heart, the OP had a basic flare kit. Guess I checked out for a moment :)

    Guess what I bought at the Chicago AHRI show!
  • rick in Alaska
    rick in Alaska Member Posts: 1,457
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    It is also supposed to be mounted above the burner, if I remember correctly.
    Rick
  • Bob Bona_4
    Bob Bona_4 Member Posts: 2,083
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    Nope.
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,835
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    As far as I'm concerned, if Bob is handling this, it'll be handled properly.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
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    Bob Bona_4CanuckerRobG
  • NYplumber
    NYplumber Member Posts: 503
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    Thats a nice shiny boiler. Flex lines are nice for service.
    :NYplumber:
    RobG
  • JohnNY
    JohnNY Member Posts: 3,230
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    I'm glad Bob Bona takes the time to contribute here. I've learned a lot from him over the years.
    Contact John "JohnNY" Cataneo, NYC Master Plumber, Lic 1784
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    SWEIZman
  • Bob Bona_4
    Bob Bona_4 Member Posts: 2,083
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    Thanks John, and I from you as well, my friend :)
    SWEIZman
  • ERF
    ERF Member Posts: 51
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    True to his word Bob arrived today and moved the tiger-loop and put the vacuum gage where it belongs. What more can you ask for! Will post pictures tomorrow showing the before and after of the open door positions.
    Zman
  • ERF
    ERF Member Posts: 51
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    Pic 005 shows door open 90* and lines are stressed at this point, Pic 002 shows door open 180* . In Pic 002 you can see the tigerloop has been moved to the center of the base stand . Bob did a great job in fixing this problem.
    Bob Bona_4SWEI
  • snugone
    snugone Member Posts: 22
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    Nice.

    When I decided to install a vacuum gauge on my tigerloop, the FLI gauge I was provided was one that also displayed for positive pressure. And when I first reopened the firomatic to allow oil from the tank, the swing of the gauge needle in the positive direction surprised me until I realized that the tigerloop was at around the level of the bottom of the oil tank so of course the weight of the oil would be causing a positive pressure on the gauge.

    I was surprised a second time when the burner started and the gauge still read positive pressure, albeit closer to the zero. At the rate my burner was taking fuel, the weight of the oil at the tank was still more than enough to keep a positive pressure in the line. Yay for clean filters.

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