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1/4 of an ounce!

ChrisJ
ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,231
in Strictly Steam
Finally installed the 16" WC gauge and fired the system up. The highest I saw was 1/4 of an ounce and that happened after the main vents closed.

youtu.be/N4YiJR-TQg8
Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
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  • JStar
    JStar Member Posts: 2,752
    Yeah, but is it still too much?
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,231
    JStar said:

    Yeah, but is it still too much?

    I don't know, what do you think?
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • JStar
    JStar Member Posts: 2,752
    Replace all of the mains with 6" pipe?
    ChrisJ
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,231
    But, my threader only goes to 2"?
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  • Dave0176
    Dave0176 Member Posts: 1,178
    Time to buy a Ridgid 161 lol
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  • Abracadabra
    Abracadabra Member Posts: 1,948
    JStar said:

    Yeah, but is it still too much?

    LOL!
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,231
    edited October 2014
    :)
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,796
    I know what he can do.
    1. Take the entire system apart.
    2. Clean the insides of all the pipes to make them as smooth as possible.
    3. Either polish the inside of the pipes or coat them in a low friction material.

    That might reduce the frictional losses enough to reduce your pressure further. Now get to work!
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  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,231
    edited October 2014
    Port and polish a steam system eh?

    KC, what pressure are you typically seeing? I know you told me but I can't remember.
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,796
    Or just send all your pipe to these guys.
    http://www.extrudehoneafm.com/
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,231
    edited November 2014
    Performance on a 17F ambient and windy night.

    http://youtu.be/bBqMvaU_GNQ



    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,796
    @vaporvac tell Chris about all that wonderful vacuum you have in your system. lol Sorry Chris couldn't resist. Seriously though that is a finely tuned system you have there! Good job!
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    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
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  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,231
    Why do you think my gauge also shows vacuum?
    Possible future modification perhaps? :)
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • vaporvac
    vaporvac Member Posts: 1,520
    Chris is basically my hero as his pics inspired me to attempt my install when other options failed.
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  • Fred
    Fred Member Posts: 8,542
    Chris, is it truely a vacuum or does the gauge need to be recalibrated? I know my gauge was showing a similar situation (0-3psi gauge) and about once a year I have to recalibrate it. It will show a negative when the boiler has been off for days. Once calibrated it is fine for about a year.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,231
    Fred said:

    Chris, is it truely a vacuum or does the gauge need to be recalibrated? I know my gauge was showing a similar situation (0-3psi gauge) and about once a year I have to recalibrate it. It will show a negative when the boiler has been off for days. Once calibrated it is fine for about a year.

    Hi Fred,

    I meant the gauge can also indicate vacuum. In my video from the 17F windy night it's showing a positive pressure of around 0.5" to 1" WC. To me it's closer to 0.5" WC average.
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment

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