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Boiler electric feed on a male 3-prong S/O cord plug?
Patchogue Phil_2
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<span style="font-size:16pt">I want to change my boiler line voltage wiring so that the boiler and circulator power is on a 3-prong male electrical (extension) cord. It will then plug into an electrical outlet right at the boiler. During a prolonged<span style="font-size:16pt"> power failure I can unplug from the house wiring and then plug into a generator.
<span style="font-size:16pt">The generator will not be able to back-feed into <span style="font-size:16pt">the</span> house wiring. But is this code legal?
<span style="font-size:16pt">As an alternative I can get <span style="font-size:16pt">an individual transfer <span style="font-size:16pt">switch for the boiler power like th<span style="font-size:16pt">e attached pic.<span style="font-size:16pt"> <span style="font-size:16pt">A regular 3-prong extension cord goes from gen<span style="font-size:16pt">erator to t<span style="font-size:16pt">he transfe<span style="font-size:16pt">r switch's recessed male plug. The transfer switch <span style="font-size:16pt">is dou<span style="font-size:16pt">ble-pole, swi<span style="font-size:16pt">tc</span>hing both neutral and hot.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span>
Is this transfer switch code approved?
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<span style="font-size:16pt">The generator will not be able to back-feed into <span style="font-size:16pt">the</span> house wiring. But is this code legal?
<span style="font-size:16pt">As an alternative I can get <span style="font-size:16pt">an individual transfer <span style="font-size:16pt">switch for the boiler power like th<span style="font-size:16pt">e attached pic.<span style="font-size:16pt"> <span style="font-size:16pt">A regular 3-prong extension cord goes from gen<span style="font-size:16pt">erator to t<span style="font-size:16pt">he transfe<span style="font-size:16pt">r switch's recessed male plug. The transfer switch <span style="font-size:16pt">is dou<span style="font-size:16pt">ble-pole, swi<span style="font-size:16pt">tc</span>hing both neutral and hot.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span>
Is this transfer switch code approved?
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Try before you buy.
Be sure it provides the clean power needed--NBC0 -
Clean enough power.
I do not have fancy electronic controls on my oil burner.
Is either option code legal?0 -
EZ Generator Switch
I've built similar stuff on site for years, but I like the packaging job they did.
I see a UL stamp on the plate, but I'm not sure if that applies to the assembly or just the component. Might be worth calling them to ask about the listing.0 -
EZ Generator Switch
I originally found the item on eBay. They also have their own web site and are on Facebook.
The company states that every jurisdiction is different so one should contact their own code officials to see if a manual transfer switch is code compliant.
I was hoping someone could answer my original question, if using an extension cord male plug on the 120v load wires feeding a boiler and/or furnace is allowed by NEC?
Then you either plug into the utility line voltage outlet or into a generator.
Any one know?
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what you have there
Is properly referred to as a flanged inlet. The NEC permits them when used appropriately.0 -
other option
I was just asking about the other option, just hard-wiring an extension cord to the boiler power feeds L1 L2. Not the green cover plate with flanged inlet.0 -
Cord Connected Boiler
I have seen it done many times and it's a practical solution.
-But- It's a violation of the NEC electrical code. The NEC allows for cord connected appliances when they will be disconnected frequently and a boiler or furnace would not be disconnected frequently. It also has specific exceptions for things like dishwashers and garbage disposals. If memory serves the NEC section to check out is 422.16 .
Good luck.0 -
what worked for me
We are in coastal NYC and lost power for over a week. Hence, no heat at first.
For our atmospheric steam boiler I was relieved to have success in wiring in a cordset for an emergency power source. The 120 volt load was all of .25 amps. At first I used a 12 volt inverter off the car battery, and later on powered from a small generator set. Not trusting how the flue damper would work on 'square wave' AC, I bypassed the motor and clamped the damper shaft in the open position. The 25 v control transformer probably was 'unhappy' with the voltage waveform, but there was no indication of damage.0 -
square wave AC
It's not quite as bad as that -- there are sharp edges to the stairsteps on any inverter output. Sharp edges = harmonics, and the steeper those stairs, the more HF trash ends up on the line. I've written before here that filtering a low frequency AC line requires "big hunks of iron and copper." Within the power budget of a control circuit, that little 40VA transformer constitutes a big hunk of iron and copper -- an effective low-pass filter. The HF noise becomes 'stuck' in the magnetic circuit, eventually being converted to heat. Better transformers pass less of this noise on to their secondaries that feed the low voltage part of the power supply, which then has to filter out less of it. If either or both falls down on the job, that noise ends up on the supply and reference lines of sensitive control circuitry. Bad things ensue.0 -
Is the Grundfos Alpha 15-55F/LC...
...a violation of that section?
Can't imagine a circulator being connected and disconnected frequently.0 -
cord-connected pump
If it came from the factory with a cordset, plug, and listing, it's considered a cord-connected appliance. The plug then qualifies as a disconnect.0 -
The Switch is Now UL Approved
I know this posted is dated a bit, but there was a question I have been longing to answer. Is the switch UL approved? As of this week, the certification is complete, the entire unit is now UL certified.
The folks at Underwrite Laboratory(UL) are very thorough, they do not mess around and it's quite the accomplishment to be able to say everything was approved.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.0 -
codes are funny
For emergency cut off plugs are often verboten but wall switches are demanded? Can't the latter fuse closed?0 -
Not understanding you
"For emergency cut off plugs are often verboten but wall switches are demanded? Can't the latter fuse closed?"
Please explain further. Thanks.0 -
Happen to find this thread again....... The price has gone up a bunch for the EZ Switch.0
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I remember reading in an electricians magazine EC&M that code doesn't want plugs on "permanent appliances" like furnace.
Think home depot has a furnace "transfer switch and male plug kit" for ~ $85.
Makes me wonder if couldn't just use a SPDT switch as a transfer switch.
OR a DPDT switch if you have neutral/ground double bond issues.0 -
An appliance such as a boiler -- which is rarely moved -- must be hard wired and protected appropriately. Sorry...
As to the generator, to meet code for such an appliance the generator must connect to a break before make, approved, transfer switch, which breaks both hots (if 240) volts. Further, the cord set from the generator must end in a female socket, not a male plug, with protected contacts. This is for your safety.
For better or worse, if it's your own house in most jurisdictions you can do it yourself, pretty much as you please. Just keep in mind that if you do, and something goes wrong, you insurance company may prove to be a wee bit difficult about settling your claim. The exception to that is the transfer switch; if your grid power supplier finds that you have an arrangement which -- however inadvertently -- might allow you to back feed the grid -- the lines in the street -- they can and will disconnect you permanently from the grid at their disconnects. This is for the safety of their linemen.
Do it right. In many cases its only slight more expensive than some Heath Robinson arrangement, and much safer.Br. Jamie, osb
Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England0 -
Put a cord on it. 12-18 inches of cord from the switch box to an adjacent single outlet. The only "safety" hazard is you kid or other household member unplugging it and forgetting to plug it in, leaving a no-heat condition. No added risk of fire, shock, etc. No different than any other appliance in the house.1
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