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Old Forgotten Ways

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EdTheHeaterMan
EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 12,109

I am doing research for a chapter in my book titled “Old Forgotten Ways,” as suggested last month by @Intplm. I can't think of enough to fill an entire chapter, so I am looking for ideas. Perhaps I will need to open this up to more than just electrical-themed procedures, like for instance the story Dan told about moving orifices in radiator valves on a gravity system when adding a circulator pump (with Dan's permission, of course).

I will give full credit in the text to each credible idea that I receive that gets into the book. Thanks in advance. This was my first thought when I heard that suggestion.

When I was a wee lad and Dad brought me to work on a Saturday, My job was to sweep the yard and empty the trash cans.  I was able to meet the different employees and I remember a service technician named Howard Levy (pronounced Lee Vee) who had an index finger that was partially missing.   Howard would test the electricity on a control or in a light socket with the index finger stump by touching the metal conductor.  If he did not feel the current tingle on his finger, then he would put his finger in his mouth to get it wet for a better connection, and try again.  

“Yep the switch is on. Can you go over there and shut the switch off so I can work on this control wiring?”

Well have at it…

Edward Young Retired

After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

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  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 12,109

    I already have the one about screwing a light bulb into a fuse socket to find a short circuit.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 12,109
    edited 6:23PM

    This is another old trick the electricians used:

    Before the use of Romex wiring, electricians would pull wires through pipes that connected one junction box to another box. If you were pulling wires through that pipe and it was a long run, electricians would often put wax or soap on the wire to allow the wire to slide through the pipe with less friction. Of course, that leads us into the Three Stooges plumbing episode where they figured the water was not flowing through the pipes because all those wires were stuck inside.

    …..Click vvv Here…..

    https://app.heygen.com/videos/7325de97ab9d495aaa909a90b6402326?proj=91e52cd27e9a4a8bba876e224f4b6047

    Can you old timers think of anything you remember doing that is no longer taught, that the youngsters need to know?

    I guess you can tell that I'm probably going to write the book and convert it to AI video. Since this short section only took about 6 minutes to generate a video.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 16,585

    electricity rather than hvac but there is the chicago or st louis or whatever city you want to disparage 3 way where they use 2 wires and reverse the polarity of the load to switch it on and off instead of modern travelers and a neutral.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 16,585

    sweating pipe and caulking cast iron is quickly getting in this category.

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 27,387

    How about a chapter of

    Old Forgotten Ways & New Fangled Ideas

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 3,002

    Setting up a heat anticipator the old way. Ten wraps around an amp probe meter.

  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,793

    I’m stunned at the reality of your avatar. 😳

    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 18,437

    Also known as a "Carter circuit" according to one of my Dead Men's Books. Someone came up with it to eliminate one wire to save money, as when controlling a light from two different buildings. These were often found on farms.

    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
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