10 Year Earning Statement
Just a heads up… in North Hempstead when applying as a master plumber you have to submit a certified, itemized earnings statement representing 10 years of work experience as a plumber that you get from the Social Security Administration. I submitted the form the SSA requires by mail (you can’t do it online), but it can take 120 days to be processed before you get the necessary documents. Four months is a long time to wait, so despite paying the $96 for the mail in request, I made an appointment to get the docs at a regional/local SSA office that’s only three weeks out. I hope this helps someone out. I was confused because the application asks for 7 years of W2s, but uploading to the CitizenServe portal isn’t straightforward, but the certified and itemized earnings statement is there.
Additionally, you need 2 Master Plumbers with current and in good standing registration to provide vouchers for you as a professional.
Then, you can schedule an appointment to sit for the exams.
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Yes, NYC has been requiring the SS Statement in place of W-2s for many years now. Nassau, and many other Counties and Municipalities have adopted this as they modernized and have also gone 100% online. The two LMP's requirement has been in place in the big three and Nassau Villages atleast since I began in the mid 1980s.
Sounds like youre making progress. Good luck and keep us posted. Mad Dog
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Neither SSA1099 nor W2 states what you actually did to earn those $$ ? A million years installing new fixtures doesn't make me a MasterPlumber or even a Journeyman. New construction work doesn't teach me much about repairing old stuff. There's probably licensed folks in every vocation who aren't really qualified.
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No doubt about that. I had 14 licenses at one point. It doesn't mean much. Its a way for the states to get $$$.
10 years' experience IMHO is absolutely ridiculous.
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The state of Connecticut requires trades people to be registered with the occupational licensing branch of the Ct. department of consumer protection. Once registered with them, you submit your time/education with them to take the required Master plumbers test. Its one of the things the state of Ct does right.
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Yes I live in MA about 2 miles from the CT border so I worked in CT quite a bit. I had a E1 and an S1 before I retired, no plumbing.
In MA I had separate licenses for:
Gas Fitting
Pipefitter
Electrical
Sheetmetal
Refrigeration
Oil burners
Absolutely ridiculous keeping up with all the different licenses which are all issued by different state boards. And then some with the code update classes.
Ct got it right. The S1 covered everything above except for electrical so it was certainly a better set up. I dropped all those licenses since I retired except for 4 which I still have in MA (and 2 more of those I should drop)
The only thing I dislike about CT is that they now renew every year and code updates every year which is crazy. They used to be every 2 years. But I dropped all my CT licenses.
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Boiler operators (stationary engineers) are classified in many places by size of facility? I'd go by pressure instead.
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I'm all for upholding and testing for the highest standards. The problem still remains:
The legit people/companies have to jump through more and higher hoops every year, yet unlicensed people continue to run amok and nothing of consequence ever happens to them. Occasionally, we see a municipality that will seize and tow a work truck or levy a fine, but its rare and not enough of a deterrent. Mad Dog
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This is true Jumper, but that issue generally resolves it self as a Jobber that gets his LMP, will usually stay in his lane..his comfort zone...what he excels at, jobbing. Conversely, a plumber who does Ones & Twos will get his license and stay doing new houses, et cetera. Mad Dog
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Wow! @EBEBRATT-Ed , you had 14 licenses at one time? That's a lot. I have had many as well but was able to drop one as you went up in "rank"? I'll be dropping a license or two soon as well. It's hard to when you think of all the effort you put in over the years to get them.
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MA operates differently. In electrical and gas fitting you need the journeyman license to do work and the Masters to run a business. If you have a masters only you can't work.
So I had Master & journeyman electrical and gasfitter so thats 4. throw in pipefitter, oil burner and shhet metal and refrigeration and you up to 8. then I had VT and CT.
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