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Steam trap on boiler above water line

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Has anyone seen this before? 1/2” Steam trap only slightly above water line tapped into a control plate. I assume the original installer was concerned about the boiler / system flooding? Peerless Lc-4.

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This is a 12 unit apartment building in San Francisco. Of course the trap is slightly passing steam.

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mattmia2

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  • 109A_5
    109A_5 Member Posts: 3,724

    Well that is different. Probably doomed to always lose some water. I wonder if there is a flooding issue that can't be resolved if a water trap would loose less water over time.

    National - U.S. Gas Boiler 45+ Years Old
    Steam 300 SQ. FT. - EDR 347
    One Pipe System
    plumbworker
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 16,117
    edited January 30

    it does nothing. steam can't get down that pipe anyhow because of the water seal, unless there is a big differential between the main and return and the equalizer is supposed to take care of that.

    oh, i see now, it is open, not connected to a return. it is probably a hack because the water is leaving the boiler and the auto feeder is overfilling the boiler during a cycle. it will kill the boiler if it is constantly dumping water.

    plumbworker
  • retiredguy
    retiredguy Member Posts: 1,086

    A set-up similar to this has been done on systems with multiple boilers that insures that a down or shut down boiler will not flood. The down boiler or boilers will slowly fill due to steam above the water line condensing. A steam trap or a "liquid drainer" as it is called is installed slightly above the normal water line and the drain pipe is routed back to a condensate receiver or condensate tank so as to not loose the water. This way when that down boiler fires it's water level is close to normal.

    Long Beach Edmattmia2
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 19,947

    A dump trap used to keep the boiler from flooding but it should go to a boiler feed tank or condensate pump. But it seems that doesn't exist

    If it is dumping water and adding MU water the boiler is doomed.

    mattmia2