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How does this gas valve & lwco work?

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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 18,598

    Pretty old I have never seen a low water cutoff where the pilot gas?? is run through the lwco.

    If it needs replacement it will be $$$

    You could pm @Tim McElwain

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 11,122

    I would take a wild guess and say that the pilot gas would be shut off when the water level dropped below the minimum safe level in that boiler. the float in the LWCO would operate a lever that closed the gas valve to the pilot. with no pilot the thermocouple would sense no flame and therefore no main valve could operate. That would be the equivalent of a manual reset LWCO

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 14,240

    pretty sure it is a modulating valve that uses gas pressure modulated by the boiler pressure to vary the firing rate.

  • 109A_5
    109A_5 Member Posts: 2,820

    It also appears the diaphragm on the left side of the gas valve monitors system pressure and throttles the burner or shuts off the burner if the pressure gets too high (Orange arrows).

    Where does the chain, wire or cable go to (Red arrow) ???

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    National - U.S. Gas Boiler 45+ Years Old
    Steam 300 SQ. FT. - EDR 347
    One Pipe System
  • retiredguy
    retiredguy Member Posts: 1,062
    edited October 3

    I haven't seen one of these systems since about 1970. Most were a Detroit Lubricator Gas Valve, very expensive but dependable coupled with a safety system in which the flow of the gas is cut off if there is a low water condition in the boiler, an over pressure condition occurs, or the pilot itself goes out. The Gas valve also would modulate the gas flow based on steam pressure. These systems were safe until they were not. They were hard to service, adjust, and repair. I would say that, that system is probably from the 1950's. I doubt that any repair parts exist. If you are having problems or you want to make the boiler operate more safely get someone that can replace that whole control system; pilot, control,s gas valve, etc. As far as the boiler goes if is not leaking it could be utilized until it leaks which may be, never. That was a very good boiler and was made to last almost forever. One more thing, if the system is working let it alone. Unless you or someone else knows exactly what they are doing, don't touch it. If it breaks or quits working, replace it. If it were mine I would want a control system that is safer than what you have. One last item, I'll bet that the elevated train system gives you lots of enjoyable free time.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 14,240

    BTW I think Detroit Lubricator got bought by ARCO/American Standard at some point.