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System Sizing

MichaelT
MichaelT Member Posts: 30

Hello, this fall I'm doing a large project with replacing the concrete and radiant floor heat system in three of the bays at a car wash. This is for ice and snow melt.

This system will be 1900 square feet. I'm going to use 3/4 inch rehau pex. There will be two manifolds. The first will have four loops. The second will have six loops. Each loop will be about 270 feet or less.

I would like to install two navien NHB-150H boilers in series so that if one goes down I will have one still working to provide some heat.

This is the picture of a set up a have for another system. What do I need to change to install two boilers in series this time?

I would also like input on how to size the pumps for the system.

The two boilers will be installed in the upper floor of the equipment room. With the manifold installed on the lower level with the pex coming out of the ground to the manifolds. Should I have a separate pump for each manifold?

I will plan on just having a sensor in the slab to determine the temperature and when to cycle on the floor heat. Really the goal is so that any snow in the bay gets melted, and any water sprayed won't freeze on the floor. Basically it will keep a constant temperature above 32 degrees.

I plan on doing a 30-35% glycol mixture.

Thank you for all help, I greatly appreciate it. This is a huge project that i'm trying to do as much of the install myself.

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Comments

  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Member Posts: 30

    My thoughts are currently to use a Grundfos UPS 26-99 at speed I/II for the 4 loop manifold and a Grundfos UPS 26-99 at speed II/III for the 6 loop manifold.

    It seems like each boiler could have its own Grundfos UPS 26-99 pump at speed II/III

    Planning on using 1 1/2 copper for the primary loop/ headers

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,541

    primary secondary piping is how that is piped and how I would pipe two boilers

    Do you could run either/ or, or even run both together for full output of 300k

    Primary loop would be 1-1/2”

    Boiler piping 1-1/4, manifolds 1-1/4”

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    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    mattmia2
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 26,298

    Pipe the boilers in PARALLEL with primary/secondary manifolding. Piping them in series will give you all kinds of grief.

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    mattmia2