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how to connect this steam radiator?

patrykrebisz
patrykrebisz Member Posts: 11
edited August 20 in THE MAIN WALL

During a house renovation, in a room that used to be a kitchen, I discovered a number of pipes beneath the floorboards. One of the pipes was for steam heat, so I decided to add a radiator to this room. I opened the pipe by removing the cap and added a short extension pipe as a starting point for a future radiator connection. I then finished the floors around it.

Somehow—naively—I assumed that the extension pipe would be plumb, but it turns out it’s not. Since the floors in this old building aren’t level, I’m unsure how to proceed. If I attach a valve to this crooked pipe, the angle between the pipe, the valve, and the radiator might be too steep for a proper union connection.

Should I try using a longer extension pipe and attempt to make it vertical? Or should I consider a different method for connecting the radiator?

EDIT (extra details):
1. the pipe you see under the floor IS slopped back towards the main (one of the few things i did check)
2. the steam pipe is coming from under the wall (the wall you see behind), so if i put the radiator where the yellow level is, it would be 90deg from pipe to radiator
3. i played with putting the radiator as Mad Dog suggested close to the wall on the left of the picture BUT then i would have 6in gap between radiator and the wall…

(what pipes look like under the floor - now closed):

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Photos showing how out of plum the pipe is:

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Comments

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 26,249

    With any kind of luck, that means that the more or less horizontal runout under the floor isn't horizontal — that it's sloped back to the main, as it should be. That would be very nice…

    And no, that is WAY too much out of line for a union to work. In fact, any alignment error is too much for a union.

    However, there are ways… and the best is create a swing joint with two elbows at 90 degrees to each other (or one 90 and one 45) and a straight, rather than angle valve. With two elbows — I'd use street elbows — one can correct any amount of alignment error.

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    delcrossv
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 8,294

    Can you swing radiator along adjacent wall? Mad Dog

    EdTheHeaterMan
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 10,838

    I like that idea!!! Then the valve will be plumb to the angle of the radiator and no need for a swing joint above the floor

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    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 2,187

    Swing joint(easiest for the homeowner) or cocked threads (need a good fitter to get that right).

    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.