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3 and 1 1/2 ton finally done

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GW
GW Member Posts: 5,061

it always amazes me how much time these Geothermal jobs soak up. Anyways, we put the button on this one today.

we mixed some hard stuff, 15%. I felt like I was in a Breaking Bad skit for a moment. I filled the little 1 gallon jug 20 times. 1 gallon per 5 1/2 gallons of water.

till next time 😀

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Gary Wilson
Wilson Services, Inc
Northampton, MA
gary@wilsonph.com
mattmia2In_New_EnglandPC7060

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  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,061

    i’m waiting for some eagle eye to point something out,

    OK maybe several things out, but one thing just caught my attention

    the homeowner will be able to take care of it in about 1.5 seconds flat

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,459

    Is the ground loop primary secondary?

  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 18,221

    Did you take a boiler out I see piping in the corner?

  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,061
    edited July 17

    it’s the one bigger circulator , I guess I would call that primary

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,061

    Ed yes we yanked the old propane boiler, the Scrap guy did his thing with it

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    old_diy_guy
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 18,221
    edited July 17

    Took out hydro aire and boiler and went geo. I didn't notice anything in the pics.

    How do you like the Waterfurnace? I did 3 or 4 of them in a college in Leicester back in the 90s thought they were pretty good.. That was my first geo job. There is a story that goes with that job four another time.

    The last geo job was Daiken and we had issues with them.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,459

    Whoever did the old stuff looks like they di d a good job too. Maybe a little incident with the old condensate piping.

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,332

    looks nice! They have a boiler HP and heat pump water heater?

    Or did the boiler go away?

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,061

    Thanks 😀

    Propane boiler got yanked, we patched the foundation, made it look good.

    I paid a VideoGuy, he’s been out four times. I’m going to have a two minute video made. I’ll paste it when it’s done in a few weeks.

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    mattmia2EdTheHeaterMan
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,061
    edited July 17

    Ed waterfurnace is the only brand we ever installed.

    small thing, we just need to shut off one of those 1/2” ball valves heading to that pressure gauge. It’s pretty minor.

    Edit- it is so strange dictating, some of my words get chopped out- I have to go back and insert words here and there

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 7,762

    I put 10% in mine back in CT and then was a little miffed to see that the water temp never went below 40

    NJ Steam Homeowner.
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  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,061

    Paul then i would call that a win! That's a good problem

    You pumped it in? One Chem sales guy scared me silly years ago, the stuff can be dangerous.

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    ethicalpaul
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,061

    @mattmia2 yes that needs to be trapped, no 'vent', I see some odd stuff in my travels

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 10,765

    Am I looking at 4 different systems here?

    Screenshot 2025-07-18 at 11.04.44 AM.png

    Th original post seems like you are talking about one system. ?!? I'm confused ?!?

    But all 4 look great! Nice Work Gary

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    GW
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 18,221

    Took out 2 hydro air systems and replaced them with GEO heat pumps and removed boiler if I understand correctly.

    Usually the removed equipment is trashed. This removed equipment could go in a new house!!!

    mattmia2GW
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 7,762

    No I didn't have to pump it because I had an open/atmospheric loop pump. I was able to just pour it in. And it was the food grade stuff, not dangerous to my knowledge

    NJ Steam Homeowner.
    Free NJ and remote steam advice: https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/new-jersey-steam-help/
    See my sight glass boiler videos: https://bit.ly/3sZW1el

    GW
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 10,765

    Thanks @EBEBRATT-Ed for that comment. At a closer look, I see that First Co. air handlers were replaced by the Water Furnace air handlers. Now I get it.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    PC7060GW
  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 6,857
    edited July 18

    I swear I wasn't TRYING to look for something to rag on. I was just looking where to put a probe thermometer to take in and out water temperatures.

    Screenshot_20250718_163059_Samsung Internet.jpg

    Anyhooo, 1.5 seconds for the homeowner to put the cap on. One hand as counterforce under the trap because those caps sometimes need a little persuasion.

    And beautiful work.

    EdTheHeaterMan
  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,681
    edited July 18
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,061

    @HVACNUT no that’s on purpose😀

    It’s the 1/2” ball valves on the loop pump- I should have closed one of them

    Just a tiny bypass going on- nothing to get excited about

    homeowner closed of of them for me (40 min drive)

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 6,857

    Why is that on purpose? I know the pump is right there, so its not a concern here, but a vent should rise at least a few inches above the trap inlet. Is there a benefit to keeping the cap off? Does Water Furnace have a display that shows temperatures and pressures, or are the ports hidden?

  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,061

    I always thought it was like holding your finger on the straw. The cap is the finger. I know it works with the cap on, I see it all the time in my travels.

    the units do not display anything. I have this Waterfurnace control that plugs into the Cat 5 port. I did a little bit of adjusting to the airflow. But I did not spend time going through all the other technicalities.

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,459

    i thought it was an overflow in case the piping got clogged but now that i think about it, the height thing means it will spill inside before it overflows

  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,681

    I thought it was so you can clean out the trap with the included brush

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,459

    on the trap the caps are but decades before that the installation manual required an open stub on the condensate line and had some spec about minimum height.

    PC7060
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 5,061

    I can't wrap my head around the min height thing. We do it on gas furnaces just to follow the written word.

    AC—-can't see how that can possibly matter

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    PC7060