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Is a cap a must?

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Cyclist77
Cyclist77 Member Posts: 162

As I get ready to install a SS chimney liner is a cap mandatory? My other flues,terracotta, don't have them and they are 4o years old. Never had a bird/animal situation. The reason I am inquiring is the SS caps are SO big and it would look very old on our cape cod style home.

Thoughts?

Thanks

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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,443

    The cap keeps water out and prevents backdrafting in certain wind conditions.

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 26,167

    If you don't have a cap or a screen, sooner or later you are going to have trouble. The other flues should be screened. If not, have it done.

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    mattmia2heatdoc1HVACNUT
  • Cyclist77
    Cyclist77 Member Posts: 162

    Thanks for your replies! Now it has me thinking about a project! So I have been considering learning TIG welding and the idea of fabricating a cap that will cover all 3 flues. I have a design in mind but pondering the way to attach it to the cap. I rebuilt the chimney 2 years ago and poured a new cap. The chimney is 4'x5' so there is alot of real estate up there. Not sure is fastening it directly to the concrete cap with say Tapcons?

    Thoughts?

  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,841
    edited July 14

    Tapcons work good when used properly and in the correct applications.

    I've seen a lot of guys use them very wrong and then say they suck.

    I'd consider some stainless 1/4" Tapcons for that and don't overtighten them. I don't know where you're located but if your area gets very high winds I'd design accordingly.

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

    mattmia2
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,443

    I'd also put silicone or osi quad around the heat and surface of the tapcon so it doesn't act as a path for water to get in the masonry cap.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,443

    they are a little iffy in my structural cay tile basement walls.

  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,841

    Does the manufacturer say you can use them in that material?

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,443

    it seems to be intentionally impossible to find a statement about what materials yo can use their product on. it gives ratings in "concrete" and "block". If the fastener strips out it makes a good hole for a rawl plug.

  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,841
    edited July 14

    I've only seen ratings in concrete (or CMUs which are concrete). That's also all I've ever used them in.

    That makes me think they're only intended to be used in concrete / concrete block.

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,895

    Hi @Cyclist77 , Any chance of a photo of what you have up on the roof? I'm wondering what options exist for solidly attaching a cap (other than lead weights). 🤔

    Yours, Larry

  • Cyclist77
    Cyclist77 Member Posts: 162

    Here is a pic of the top of the chimney just after we poured the cap.

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    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,895

    Hi, It would take some sheet-metal skill to make a single cap, but it seems to me that stainless band clamps can be used to attach to the three outlets, pretty much eliminating any risk of damage to them. 🤠

    Yours, Larry

  • Cyclist77
    Cyclist77 Member Posts: 162

    MMy Idea is 1 cap that spans all 3 flues.

    The idea of incorporating band clamps is a great idea!

    Larry Weingarten