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What is your longest running Combi Boiler without ever needing Service - excluding maintenance.

Le John
Le John Member Posts: 246

I am a data guy and want to get statistics on the longest running combi boiler without ever needing service - excluding maintenance.

Not necessarily your favorite combi boiler but a combi boiler that just worked and just kept going and going.

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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,036
    edited May 16

    i think this is the reinforcing the parts of the plane that don't have bullet holes problem.

    Robert_H
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 17,972

    I don't think Munchkin made combis but there seems to be some of them hanging around. Parts I think are getting scarce for them.

  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 3,223

    I had a Bosch service call recently , The customer mentioned first call in 11 years..The electrodes walked and I believe were the original .. I was amazed ..

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  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,599

    I think I had a Viessmann once that was 8 years old before it needed a replacement flow sensor. Combis don't fare well in my area due to the water quality. Most of them will definitely require a replacement flame rectification rod or spark electrode in the first five years. Not sure if you consider that maintenance or a repair.

  • Le John
    Le John Member Posts: 246

    Good point. I’d consider this a repair if the manufacturer doesn’t specifically state it should be maintained after a specific amount of time like a igniter etc.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,036

    sounds like it is spark rather than hsi

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,166

    I wonder how many folks would admit to running a boiler or combi 5, 10, 15 years without service?

    With a combi, water quality and how many gallons has passed through. So that would not be as easy as tracking a boiler maintenance.

    Many boilers and combis have data loggers on them, it would show whenever service hours was cleared off, perhaps.

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,036

    if i knew what level of cleaning it needed before i had it apart i would be a lot more likely to do it.

  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 3,223
    edited May 17

    The Bosch uses a spark ignition , The electrodes over time will bend downward .. The bad ones have to be walked out :)

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    mattmia2
  • Tom_133
    Tom_133 Member Posts: 929

    This is easy for me and unbelievable. Baxi. I hate to say it but its true, I have had more than a few go 10 + years without touching them. I got a call from what I thought was a former customer because I never heard from them. He let me know, that they hadn't called because there was no need. Maintenance conversation aside, I went over and found it running great. Needed a cleaning, and a flame rod and igniter. Here's the pic. I dont understand it, this thing was on LP, and only did radiant and hot water. It sees the hours, and should need more love. Baxi… I dont like them, but man they have held up for me, so I dont even know why I dont like them.

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    Tom
    Montpelier Vt
    Alan (California Radiant) ForbesPC7060
  • GB142
    GB142 Member Posts: 34

    2006 Buderus GB142/45 Combi still running 4-Zone. Plenty of service calls, and replaced parts, now getting harder to find electrical components, but still working albeit, my fins in the HX are showing their age.

    Will need to replace soon.😒

    BruceSteinberg
  • GroundUp
    GroundUp Member Posts: 2,360
    edited May 17

    As much as I hate to admit this, I recently serviced a Navien combi that was installed in 2013 and had never been touched. Family of 6 using DHW and a 4 loop radiant floor in the basement. Flushed the HX and it showed almost no signs of buildup, then replaced the pressure switch after a long talk with tech support. All better

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,166

    I had a Laars Mascot, the early ones were Baxi 330 relabeled. It was cleaned twice in 16 years. Maybe 6 years on it before it was first opened. An lp version that was at my in-laws home on our property. New gaskets and flame rods as a precaution.

    Never had a single issue with it and it cycled a lot for their dhw use,

    If I were a betting man, I would guess many if not most mod con combis get neglected , serviced only when something fails

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 4,573
    edited May 18

    I have a number of Cosmogas/ Embassy Axia boilers still out there.

    Installed 2005-2007.

    They are an atmospheric set up. Pretty bulletproof. Igniters and the occasional need to top off water is about all they get.

    A complete service/ teardown would not be fun… day long process.

    I have done a few the really issue is parts are very hard to find.

  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,664

    Not a combi, but my neighbor has a on demand hot water heater buried behind a shelf units. He’s been the house 9 years and no maintenance. Unit seems to be running along.

  • STEAM DOCTOR
    STEAM DOCTOR Member Posts: 2,385

    Now we need to make a reverse thread. Shortest unit run time, before needing service. Or maybe most service calls within the first year, two, five.....

    kcopp
  • kcopp
    kcopp Member Posts: 4,573

    That's simple for me…

    Embassy Onex. (Cosmogas) It was their intro into the condensing market. This was a pain to dial in Especially on LP gas.

  • GGross
    GGross Member Posts: 1,526

    Can't know the exact date of install because there was no record, but they only made this serial between 03-09 viessmann wb2 little combi. customer went out to it after an ice storm left our area without power for a week or more. Must have taken a surge or something when the power came back on because the board was toasted. I've seen a lot make it 10 years with no issue, the problem is most of the time when you show up to those they actually haven't even had annual service to the burner in those 10 years and the problems begin stacking up. Good brands that are installed well and don't get hit by dirty power can safely last 10 years not being touched at all, 15+ with some annual service (or a great deal of luck). Probably the most common early parts to "fail" are those little Grundfos flow sensors in many brands, usually its just debris in there causing the thing to not read correctly, a filter helps mitigate this. In my experience the primary problems I have with combis have to do with customer expectations not parts failures. There's a bad habit of swapping out a tank for a tankless or combi and the customer doesn't like waiting for hot water, so you build a recirc for them and the thing short cycles itself to an early death because they never call for maintenance.

  • Radiantamateur
    Radiantamateur Member Posts: 6

    I’m a homeowner and I installed an IBC HC 13-50 combo unit myself, been running since Jan 2019 almost flawlessly.

    I’ve cleaned the combustion chamber once a few years ago, wasn’t too bad. Been meaning to do it again just haven’t found time. Doesn’t look horrible through the viewport. Otherwise only issue is a pressure sensor went bad which I easily fixed. I keep an extra ignitor and pressure sensor on hand now.

    No complaints here for a $1600 unit. Probably helps I’m not using it for DHW and I must have been somewhat right on sizing as I’ve never noticed it short cycling.

  • scott w.
    scott w. Member Posts: 220

    Home owner here. Had my Weil McClain ultra installed Oct. 4, 2004 and believe I have only had one service repair call since original install date. Of course the maintenance schedule has been followed, which has been every other year. Is my Weil McClane Ultra living on borrowed time????? Combi meaning DHW and heating, correct?

  • geo_1111
    geo_1111 Member Posts: 25

    I installed a Weil-McLain Ultra 380 in 2009 and other than 3 year exchanger klinker clean and igniter change out it runs great. It replaced a 6 section coal boiler that was converted to oil with the burner installed through door. Gravity system with 3 inch mains in the boiler room upgraded to B&G 100 on the secondary loop. 17 years and running fine.

    I wish I had taken better care of my Buderus GB 142; here's the admission you sought. I did no maintenance on this boiler for 11 years, yup that's the truth. It developed a hx leak but I'm gonna seal it up and see what happens.

  • BruceSteinberg
    BruceSteinberg Member Posts: 5

    GB 142 isn't a combi as far as I know. Nut then I could becerong

    kcopp
  • BruceSteinberg
    BruceSteinberg Member Posts: 5
  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,599

    20+ years is an impressive amount of time for a combi. I can't say that it's past it's expiration date but I would be concerned about the age of it.

  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 6,168

    WHY?

    The clearly states to have it checked and serviced annually!


    Don’t change the oil in your car what’s gonna happen!