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new work truck

mikedo
mikedo Member Posts: 261

i need a new work truck most likley some type of van it seems most of the new trucks have problems with transmissions and engines. i have primarily have bought chevrolets but there new v8s semm to be having alot of issues with the displacement on demand motors blowing up and the 10 speed autos are also not very reliable. any suggestions on what to buy. thanks mike

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  • Tom_133
    Tom_133 Member Posts: 926

    I have had all most all of them. I currently have an AWD sprinter. It's very fuel efficient and is an absolute animal in the snow. I bought the 144 and realize now the 170 would be better for me. The down side is it's only good to tow 5k unless u spend a bunch more and then u can tow 7500.

    That all said, I would still probably do a GM with a 6.0 gas, and a box on the back with the doors on the outside. It's very accessible without having to get in and out of the back all the time. It can tow, as heavy as it is with the locker in the rear it will do ok in the snow.

    Mikedo, its about your age, your spending limit, if its your personal truck or an employee, the amount of snow you deal with, etc.

    That probably didnt help…

    Tom

    Tom
    Montpelier Vt
    Mad Dog_2Long Beach Edmarkdelzell
  • mikedo
    mikedo Member Posts: 261

    thanks anything helps i just keep reading about the chevy v8 problems. to small for me but the toyota pickups are having huge problems with there new smaller turbo motors. trying to meet the fuel standards is making new trucks way to complex.

  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,989

    I've owned a fleet of different work trucks over the years and worked out of all of them; station wagon, utility truck, minivan, full size van, box truck, sprinters. The best to work out of, that covers all bases is the SPRINTERS.Mad Dog

    EdTheHeaterManDerheatmeistermarkdelzell
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,922

    being able to stand up inside these has been a game changer

    Mad Dog_2EdTheHeaterManDerheatmeistermarkdelzell
  • GroundUp
    GroundUp Member Posts: 2,336

    GM's DOD/AFM issues with the lifters only pertain to the half ton series, and the majority of the transmission issues are also half ton related so you wouldn't be in that category anyway. The 6.6L gas engine in the 3/4 and 1 tons is great and the Allison 10 speed that comes behind them has been pretty trouble free as well. There have been some issues with them behind the Duramax, but the gasser doesn't have enough power to hurt them. I had two myself and the second one was a huge turd with other things (mostly electrical) so I'm pretty turned off to GM now but a close friend of mine has about a dozen of them running around in his excavating business and has been very happy with them.

    I run an F350 now with the 7.3L gas and would buy another in a heartbeat. It gets great mileage for what it is, and will pull anything I can put behind it. I personally work out of an enclosed trailer now, but having had vans in the past I'd never go back to that after working out of a KUV. A Ford F350 or Chevy 3500 with a gas engine and Knapheide KUV body would be the ultimate work truck in my opinion.

    Alan (California Radiant) ForbesGreeningDerheatmeisterSuperTech
  • JMWHVAC
    JMWHVAC Member Posts: 81

    Ford Transit, best selling van. My son's went to 250k before the accident. Mine is at 140k. In 2014 I needed another van and assumed I would get another Ford E-350 with the box on the back. Ended up with a transit which was the first year for them in the USA. Compared to a cube van, as I called my old one, the transit rode like a car and did much better on mileage. Interestingly, the legal payload was also 500lb more than the E-350 cube van. My high roof transit has over 6' of inside height.

  • mikedo
    mikedo Member Posts: 261

    i was thinking about a transit. i did not realize the chevy 6.6 v8s dont have the active fuel management like the 6.2s so im debating i would really like a cutaway with an aluminium walk in utility body single rear wheel. but im having a little sticker shock when i see the price

    Greening
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 24,887

    I follow a couple RV chat rooms. Seems like a lot of issues with the Sprinter conversions lately. MB issues not Winnebago work. Although Winnebago plumbing and heating systems leave a lot to be desired:)

    Unless you find an independent shop, the required MB services to maintain warranty look to be thousands per visit?

    When I had a 2008 Sprinter, MB auto dealers that could and would work on them were hard to find. They claimed they would not fit inside their shops on the lifts??

    Seems like any Ford dealer can work on the Transits, and I see AWD versions at dealers near me.

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    Derheatmeister
  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 3,176

    You seem to just starting out …. A van is a good investment , you can lock up your tools and it takes you to work.. Setting it up is another good investment…

    I don't know if want to hold the nut of new …..

    If not … Shop around fleet sales , you can find some good ones and they are already set up.. Throw in your tools and go … The American Van catalog is coming to my mind :)

    Good Luck , Keep your nose clean and your mouth shut …. from a Older grunt

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    Mad Dog_2ScottSecorpecmsg
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,922

    2022 Pro Ram high top $70 K out the door. Add another $10 K for Ranger shelving.

    My 1st house was 1/2 that!

    Derheatmeister
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,227

    I ve worked out of vans forever and a few pick up trucks but i bite the bullet and picked up a used e 350 utility body w a kuv body . It was a game changer as for access to tools and seeing the floor . It really cut down on time locating both tools and material . The gas mileage does leave abit to desire but it is about as good as my last 350 van so i can live w that . i wish i would have done sooner but i know this is the last work vehicle being every thing is winding down .

    Advise ,do it while your young if you are and if your financially stable .

    peace and good luck clammy

    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating

  • tim smith
    tim smith Member Posts: 2,858

    I have had 6 sprinters, they are great until you need to have repaired. Next to no good sprinter techs who don’t just throw parts at ‘em. At 1000s of dollars per visit. Even dealers techs aren’t that great and $$$. Got great mpg for full size van but over 10 yr cost of ownership repairs wiped out fuel savings. Let alone time down. If we had not decided to close Down and retire, the vehicle that really interested me was the GM Brightdrop EV 400. Would depend on part of country you are in and your electric rates if good option

    . Real cold country also lowers ev range. Up to 250 mi ev range. Fw/4wd option. 412cft cargo.

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 24,887

    Diesel and DEF need to be considered also. Once upon a time diesel was cheaper, way cheaper than gas. Diesel is always 5- 8 cents a gallon more around here. I saw DEF at 29 bucks! at a Quick stop.

    Although Walmart advertises their brand DEF for $9.99??

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    DerheatmeisterCLamb
  • jesmed1
    jesmed1 Member Posts: 1,243
    edited April 7

    There's also the Ford E-Transit. Range is limited, but if you're driving 150 miles per day for work, you're not getting much work done.

    https://www.caranddriver.com/ford/e-transit

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a62704993/2025-ford-e-transit-updates-pricing/

  • mikedo
    mikedo Member Posts: 261

    thanks tim im looking for a new truck and so is my friend also plumbing contractor hes got a 2017 100k sprinter diesel and they cant seem to get it to run right and pass emmisions in ct put several thousand dollars in it already they want 5k to fix the emmsions with no warranty. he bought it new and it is well maintained. so hes so disgusted he just wants to move on from it. i think where both going to go with the chevy gas 6.6

    Derheatmeister
  • ScottSecor
    ScottSecor Member Posts: 961

    We have been using Ford E350 vans for a long time. Six years ago, I switched to a F150 pickup truck for myself. I am not in the field anywhere near as mush as I was in the past. The pickup suits my needs well. We still have two older E350 vans.

    We ordered a F350 single wheel chassis cab in August of 2023. It was finally built in May of 2024 and shipped to the "box" fabricator and installer in June 2024. They finished the truck in September of 2024.

    I drove the new truck with the new box installed from Indiana to NJ, averaged 8mpg. Now that the truck is loaded we get about 7mpg. The good news is the tank holds 40 gallons of gasoline, so the range is acceptable. We went with the 7.3 gas motor instead of the diesel, as most of our work is local. The engine appears to be a great fit for our needs. It has plenty of power, even when loaded.

    Despite the box being highly custom, we still had to modify it to meet our needs. I can honestly say this truck saves us approximately ten to twenty minutes every day. This is especially true for night and weekend emergencies. The box is ten feet long and approximately seven feet high, plus the height of the frame. Not a sleek vehicle by any means. We can easily grab a part, tool, pipe, tarp, hose, etc, without too much fuss.

    The exterior box doors allows great access to all of the tools and parts we use on a regular bases. We love not having to kneel in the back of the van to grab a part. The tall ceiling is fitted with lights that allow us to find things easily.

    While the truck resembles an ice cream truck. While not ideal for aerodynamics, it certainly has a lot of space and versatility.

    Like others, I am not much of a fan of the current van offerings. Our next truck may be a slightly smaller box truck on a E series or F series chassis.

    GroundUpclammy
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 17,569

    Lat two jobs before I retired at the first place they always bought 3/4 ton Chevys or GMC vans with v8s. This was 2001-20016. Those vans were tough. They like to replace them when they hit 100-120K. but I used to hate switching trucks and would put off getting a new one and would run them to 130-150 with out any major issues. You used to be able to get 100k with only doing tires and brakes. After 100K you would get into ball joints ty rods ect but not too bad. Over 150 K you start spending more and more time with them in the shop and your driving the old "spare" van.

    The other place I worked we had 3/4 ton Ford Vans. They were ok but the bean counter there used to say " we don't have more trouble with the Fords than the GMCs but the repair bills on the Fords were higher". Gmc you would get $500 repairs and the Fords were $1000 repairs.

    We (at least I did) usually put 30k-35K on a van every year.

  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 3,176

    The trucks gets larger the longer you stay out in the field …

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    PC7060SuperTech
  • I hear that Ford can equip their trucks to run on compressed natural gas (CNG). For home use, you would have to have equipment to increase the pressure to fuel the truck. Does anyone have one of these trucks?

    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
  • GroundUp
    GroundUp Member Posts: 2,336

    I know of a few propane powered Ford 7.3L in my area, but none on CNG. LP is about half the cost of gasoline after the dust is settled, is what they're saying.

  • 4Johnpipe
    4Johnpipe Member Posts: 486

    I am switching to the Ford E series cut away with the KUV of Knapheide bodies. My next move will be to the transit nose same body style. My service guys like the taller roof which would mean a dually rear and my new construction like the 350-weight class standard roof single rear. I've found that for a shop like mine where we do primarily new construction this body style is perfect for service and new work.

    LANGAN'S PLUMBING & HEATING LLC
    Considerate People, Considerate Service, Consider It Done!
    732-751-1560
    email: langansph@yahoo.com
    www.langansplumbing.com
  • bmcservice
    bmcservice Member Posts: 7

    Regarding service vans. Stay far away from the Pro-Masters. After many years of issues, We switched back to GMC / Chevy. Regarding Utility Body vehicles we have had good results with Ford

  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,528

    We have a fleet of extended WB Sprinters, and have always been happy with them. Largest cargo capacity of any van, and we need it. We cover a large area and we need to be certain when we arrive, we have everything we need. Only the big Sprinter can do that. And they are very fuel efficient, and reliable.

    But it's true MB service isn't the best. Largely because they are not set up for commercial guys and our needs. They are used to luxury car owners. They will normally only have one tech who can do Sprinters, so a lot depends on who that guy is. And their habit is to just stack all vehicles in for service in their lot, (we’ll get to it when we can!) so that the productivity of their techs is 100%. There’s always a vehicle waiting for them. For their normal customers, they get around this by offering a loaner, which obviously doesn’t work for commercial. Commercial needs to get in and out, and back on the road. Took us forever to get this across, but we have come to terms of a sort.

    When Sprinters were hard to get a while ago and we needed another van, we decided to get the biggest Transit. Ford has a commercial truck service center very convenient to us, and it’s great. They understand us, and our needs, right out the door. So the idea was to gradually switch to Transits. BUT, the transit just doesn’t have the capacity we need, so that didn’t work out. Good van though. We are sticking with Sprinters.

    All our vans are high roof, with standing room. I would never have anything else.

    We also uplift all our vans with Sortimo. This is a great system from Germany, and you can fully customize your installation online, to get exactly what you need, including labels for every bin, shelf, and rack. They are based out of Atlanta is the US. Unfortunately, their distribution/installation network is horrendous! We are RI based and no one could handle our needs. The closest dealer who could, ended up being in Ohio. So we order our Sprinters from an OH MB dealer, then the van goes to the upfitter, and finally they ship it ready to go (except wrapping) to us. Sounds complicated, but actually not. The entire thing gets done without my ever having to leave my desk, until the van arrives and I need to park it.

    The 2nd best uplifting system seems to be the Bott Smart Van System. At the time, they did not have enough components to meet our needs, but they appear to be expanding rapidly. Their systems can also be installed DIY, which I am sure will be popular for many.

    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
    PC7060
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,528

    With the Sortimo system, there is a place for everything (labeled), and everything in it's place!

    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • Kickstand55
    Kickstand55 Member Posts: 114

    Good thing you asked

    I have a 2019 Chevy G3500 single rear wheel cube van with barn doors. Has a 6 liter V8, 6 speed auto. Now has 42,000 miles. Towed a travel trailer to Tennessee. No problems at all. Word of caution: Do not buy the 1/2 ton GM vehicles, A as they have cylinder deactivacation. Those engines are trash. If you need a pickup truck, get the 1 ton. You shouldn't go wrong

  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,574

    For what it's worth, at my company we've had all Chevy vans and one Transit and one Nissan. Everyone disliked the Nissan but it did make it to around 200K miles before the cost of repairs became high enough to take it off the road.

    The Chevy vans have been tough and reliable. I've always felt like they were the best and most comfortable to drive, although I have never driven a Sprinter. Here in NY it seems like every Sprinter I see has a problem with rust.

    And that brings me to the Transit at my company. I believe it's a 2019 or 2020 model and has less than 150K on it, but it just failed inspection due to a rusted out frame. The body has no rust on it at all.

    PC7060
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,388

    Does anyone watch the Steven Lav Utubes?

    He gets retired Fed Ex vans. He has some shows of walk thru of his van, very interesting. He does HVAC, plumbing, boilers etc. A lot of oil burners. One man shop. Even after 48 years, I have learned a lot of small tips just watching him do repairs.

    Myself, I have a retired ambulance. E-350, almost stand up raised topper roof.

    Got it with 69,000 miles on in 2007. I was on the crew when it was new in 1984 so know of the care it got. Running good for the last 18 years.

    It likes gas, the best milage you get out of the Ford 460, 7.5L is 10 MPG. Loaded or not. I got almost 10MPG loaded to 9500LBS for 280 highway miles. But for my business I might only average 3000 miles per year.

    It still looks like an ambulance, people give you the right of way at 4-way stops, I have been waved thru road construction also.

    When these are ordered from the factory all the options/goodies are added. Heavy duty everything…..even cassette player, 2 heaters, 2 AC. Enough lights in the back to do surgery with.

    Of course, not for everyone but for the one man shop not going far every day it works out well.

    I recall an article in a trade magazine that some service company had their vans "wrapped" with the ambulance paint design. They paid as much per van as I paid for the real deal. $2250.00 for me. New was over $26,000 in 1984…..and still no rust.