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Ultrasonic Coil Cleaning

I'm reposting this question I asked in 2008. Never figured this out. Any ideas?

There's a guy here on Long Island who has been using an "ultrasonic" gadget to clean boiler boils for several decades.

He hooks up a wooden box wrapped with tape between an air compressor and any hot water faucet. He plugs in the box, which he calls an ultrasonic transducer, and turns on the compressor. This does a great job of cleaning the coil. Pounds of mung come out of any open faucet.

Any idea how this works?

Comments

  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,373

    You've seen it clean for yourself?

    And more than just compressed air would do? Do you hear anything when he does it? Other than air?

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 25,365

    If that box widget is creating and transmitting fairly powerful ultrasonic sound into the water and piping, I can see how it might knock grunge off the pipe walls. Wonder what it is?

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • leonz
    leonz Member Posts: 1,388

    They wrap a series of ultrasonic emmitters around pipes and tanks to vibrate the pipe or tank and break the scale deposits inside the pipe or tank. I hope the air compressor he has is attached to the boiler drain or hose bib has a regulator set at 30 PSIG or less.

    Here is an example; www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7hi-0jMnEI

    Mad Dog_2
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,652

    Bouncing the coil...Mad Dog

  • Long Beach Ed
    Long Beach Ed Member Posts: 1,465

    Yes, it was many years ago, but I believe it made a buzzing sound. The fellow's still in business; says he invented the method… But it was at least 35 years ago I saw this done.

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,991

    buy an inexpensive one at Harbor Frieght and “modify it”🤔

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • Long Beach Ed
    Long Beach Ed Member Posts: 1,465

    Certainly been thinking along those lines for many years, but really can't imagine what the entire makeup of the thing would be…

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,991

    I think it uses a high frequency sound wave to induce cavitation bubbles, tiny implosions, to clean the parts. The same forces that destroy pump impellers with aggressive cavitation bubbles collapsing.

    So you would need to build a waterproof case around the coil, I think.

    Either remove the coil or figure out how to build a box to seal around the piping, etc?

    Unless he just vibrated the coil without a liquid?

    You could do that by holding your palm sander against it 🤭

    It seems like you need compressed air or a fluid to move the gunk away?

    Pressure washing while vibrating with your palm sander🤩

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 3,089
    edited January 22

    I watched once , it sounded like a air chisel if I had to guess…… He attached it to the drain valve.... Nice guy…. I started to ask questions that he did want to answer :) his gig…

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    Mad Dog_2
  • Long Beach Ed
    Long Beach Ed Member Posts: 1,465
    edited January 22

    I too! Maybe it was just pulsating the air…? Chattering solenoid valve?