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Press Fit Fittings?

Cyclist77
Cyclist77 Member Posts: 40

If I want to give these a go how effective are the manual tools? And what size can they be realistically be used on?

Thanks!

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  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,512
    edited January 1

    I wasn't aware there are Manual Tools for press fittings. Tough getting the 300 + PSI needed.

  • trivetman
    trivetman Member Posts: 210
    edited January 1

    https://www.supplyhouse.com/Bluefin-CPTLKIT-Copper-Press-Tool-w-1-2-3-4-1-Jaws


    reviews indicate that people have gotten it to work

  • rynoheat
    rynoheat Member Posts: 37
    edited January 1

    I have one of those hydraulic manual press tools. I've only used it twice, but it did the job on 3/4". One thing that could be a drawback is that it needs more clearance than the power tools. It's also pretty tricky to do when you hold it horizontally because you're pumping it rather than doing it in one squeeze.

  • trivetman
    trivetman Member Posts: 210

    think it would handle 1” fittings ok? Comes with jaws for 1”

    Cyclist77
  • rynoheat
    rynoheat Member Posts: 37

    Yeah, I think so. It basically works like a hydraulic jack, it can add up the force over multiple pumps.

  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,521

    Most (all?) of us who use ProPress use battery powered units (Milwaukee or Ridgid).
    Doing more than a few by hand seems time consuming. Even with battery press tools with rotatable heads, you have to always be thinking about how you can get the tool into the location. It will be much more challenging with manual tool.
    I’d sweat the pipes or (shock 🫨) use shark bites before I’d risk the hand tool for press applications.

    Larry WeingartenIntplm.offdutytech
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,816

    It's tought to fit those long handled manual crimpers in many places. The handles open pretty wide. I have a REMS version and found it only works in big open spaces.

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,848

    @hot_rod said,

    It's tought to fit those long handled manual crimpers in many places. The handles open pretty wide. I have a REMS version and found it only works in big open spaces.

    LOL Remember the big Viega original press tool (the one with the cord). Those were heavy especially with the 2" or the 2 1/2-4" jaws and adapters & they were long.

    First job I used a PP on back around 2002?? That was the only press tool available at that time as far as I know I ran some 1 1/2 copper. Looked pretty good until I tried to press it I was hanging off a ladder and the tool was jammed up between bar joists trying to press.

    But when that tool pressed a joint the joint was pressed!!!! No hesitation even on 4"

  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,318

    I used to call that first tool the "Bazooka"

  • Kaos
    Kaos Member Posts: 336

    I've given up on anything copper except for tight areas. There solder.

    For anything else, PEX or PERT. Copper is not worth the cost or time. I've also re-plumbed my heat a couple of times now, PEX makes it much easier to modify and change. Stainless cinch rings are your friend for this as they are much easier to remove. You are not supposed to but one bonus of anything pex is you can rotate the fittings after crimping, which makes working in tight areas easier.

    The one copper piece I do love is these:

    https://www.pexuniverse.com/sioux-chief-3-4-pex-elbow-lead-free-642x3

    Great for water and heat.

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,816

    T agree on the long sweep ells for PEX work. The copper pex tees seem friendlier to flow also, but I don't see them much anymore. Everything is going polymer.

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream