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Any reason I can't put a Gorton 2 at the TOP of a riser instead of the bottom?
Jells
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I want to increase the venting of the riser furthest from the boiler, but the main vent is inside the wall of the basement tenant's apartment and access is a PITA both physically and dealing with them. There's 2 risers from that point feeding 5 bedrooms upstairs, on one of the rads on the top floor I have previously added a tee between valve and union for a smaller extra vent. Now I'm thinking: why not put the Gorton 2 there? Any reason? Is it noisy?
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This is America 🇺🇸 Jells...you can do anything you want. I won't call the Steam Vent police on ya.ha ha 🤣 😆 😅 Mad Dog 🐕0
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someone texted me similar thing too
"can I put a gorton 2 instead?"
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That works...Do the same the thing when the old vent is buried or covered in asbestos. Mad Dog 🐕0
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Actually, will work as well -- or better!Br. Jamie, osb
Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England0 -
Jamie Hall said:
So why isn't it SOP? On the 2-in riser without radiators that heats the bathrooms in the same house, there's just a vent at the top of the pipe in the top bathroom like a foot from the ceiling. Why isn't that done on every riser?Actually, will work as well -- or better!
For what it's worth, on most of the top floor radiators in the house I've already tapped the side near the valve and added another MOM radiator valve there with no port screwed in.
This house is a mess. I'll probably post more of my thermometer reading graphs for people to read like tea leaves.0 -
Why not SOP? Good question.... except that maybe folks don't like to see big main vents in the quality side of the house...Br. Jamie, osb
Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England0 -
Speak for your self!!!!Jamie Hall said:Why not SOP? Good question.... except that maybe folks don't like to see big main vents in the quality side of the house...
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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Look. When I was a kid, lo these many years ago, we never went into the kitchen, never mind the basement -- and the yard man and the cook who was also the maid never came into the rest of the house, except to do housework.
Except of course, being kids, we did...
That was a different universe, or at least a different planet...Br. Jamie, osb
Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England0 -
Jamie Hall said:Look. When I was a kid, lo these many years ago, we never went into the kitchen, never mind the basement -- and the yard man and the cook who was also the maid never came into the rest of the house, except to do housework. Except of course, being kids, we did... That was a different universe, or at least a different planet...
Not sure about a different universe as much as a different tax bracket.
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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Never see a rad piped like the picture above. Basically a 1 pipe system. Both the supply and return are piped to the same riser.
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I had actually thought about trying that.EBEBRATT-Ed said:Never see a rad piped like the picture above. Basically a 1 pipe system. Both the supply and return are piped to the same riser.
The reasoning was because I thought I could control the supply of steam but the condensate isn't interrupted.
It looks like I wasn't the first one to have the idea and I guess it works.
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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On long runouts with a hard to heat radiator, we've swapped the radiator valve for a tee with a main vent on top and a straight valve to the radiator on the bull.1
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So what's that device in the lower line on lower right, a check valve to release the condensate?EBEBRATT-Ed said:Never see a rad piped like the picture above. Basically a 1 pipe system. Both the supply and return are piped to the same riser.
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Looks like a steam trap.Jells said:Never see a rad piped like the picture above. Basically a 1 pipe system. Both the supply and return are piped to the same riser.
So what's that device in the lower line on lower right, a check valve to release the condensate?Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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Looks like a steam trap.ChrisJ said:Jells said:
So what's that device in the lower line on lower right, a check valve to release the condensate?EBEBRATT-Ed said:Never see a rad piped like the picture above. Basically a 1 pipe system. Both the supply and return are piped to the same riser.
No idea what that is, and I'm OK with that. Simple one pipe is more than I can deal with!0 -
Not sure about a different universe as much as a different tax bracket.ChrisJ said:Jamie Hall said:Look. When I was a kid, lo these many years ago, we never went into the kitchen, never mind the basement -- and the yard man and the cook who was also the maid never came into the rest of the house, except to do housework.
Except of course, being kids, we did...
That was a different universe, or at least a different planet...
Much more a different planet. Family had had money, but the Great Depression did that in. We were lucky to keep the farm at all, and the cook and yard man lived there as well. We all just did what we could. On top of that, there was a war on, and no men around except me (much too young to be much help) and the yard man (too old, German name). We managed.Br. Jamie, osb
Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
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Yeah, full time household help was a normal middle class thing up until maybe the 60s. Think about all the TV families that had a full time housekeeper! I hear from South Asians that even today you have to be pretty low on the scale to NOT have servants! Same in many parts of south and central America.Jamie Hall said:
Not sure about a different universe as much as a different tax bracket.ChrisJ said:Jamie Hall said:Look. When I was a kid, lo these many years ago, we never went into the kitchen, never mind the basement -- and the yard man and the cook who was also the maid never came into the rest of the house, except to do housework.
Except of course, being kids, we did...
That was a different universe, or at least a different planet...
Much more a different planet. Family had had money, but the Great Depression did that in. We were lucky to keep the farm at all, and the cook and yard man lived there as well. We all just did what we could. On top of that, there was a war on, and no men around except me (much too young to be much help) and the yard man (too old, German name). We managed.0 -
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I guess it is a SOP to vent the risers in high buildings.0
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