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Bypass with low loss header

Would a bypass be required on a low temperature system fitted with a low loss header?

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  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 24,997
    What type of bypass were you thinking? Pressure or temperature?

    If the secondary side had a fixed speed circulator with 4 or more zone valves or actuators, a pressure bypass would be a good addition 

    Or use a delta P style circulator if zone valves are used.


    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • SpicyLlama
    SpicyLlama Member Posts: 2
    edited September 2022
    Temp bypass. Only 3 zones (dhw/rads/underfloor) 
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 24,997
    what type hat type of boiler?  If it is cast iron or steel you don’t need a LLH
    If it is a mod con you may not need a bypass?

    Need to know more about the system components 
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,227
    If your boiler is cast iron non condensing and a low loss header was installed I would suggest it’s not a by pass you need ,what is needed would be danfoss thermic valve to prevent prolonged low temperature return temps which will possibly cause flue gas condensation and ruin your boiler . A thermic valve is the better choice then a valved by pass which will never really have a idea of what the return temp is while a thermic valve has some what of a brain . In which case a hydro separator is good for hydronic pump separation but a 4 port buffer tank like a boiler buddy would have been a better choice being it would give you some buffering and possible alleviate any short cycling by giving you volume being most radiant systems don’t have a lot of volume and after initially coming up to temp they don’t shed a lot of btu s and w a non modulating boiler short cycling usually starts ,while a buffer tank will store the extra heat and the radiant slips off it until the temp falls low enough to re engage the boiler .
    Food for thought
    Peace and good luck clammy

    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 24,997
    This method give you mix temperature, based on outdoor temperature, and protects the boiler
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream

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