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Paul S_3
Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
edited August 2016 in THE MAIN WALL
That never worked correctly....1/2 home depot pex used .....about 9 radiators a zone....boiler is a 167K....heat load is at worst 65K.....customer paid $XX,XXX.XX....contractor just left after he couldn't get the heat going ....notice the pump on the return (wired to come on everytime boiler fires)...and all the pumps on the supply.......3.5 million dollar home in Bedford ave in Brooklyn.....House was just renovated..i had to cut sheetrock from ceiling to floor..
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.i felt bad but its the only way to get this fix....im homerunning every radiator to remote manifolds one for each floor using Viega fostapex and repiping boiler and indirect....

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Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
347-692-4777
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  • SWEI
    SWEI Member Posts: 7,356
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    Paul S said:

    customer paid $XX,XXX.XX....contractor just left after he couldn't get the heat going

    Unfortunately all too familiar. This stuff really makes my blood boil. I know you'll set them straight, but Aaaggghhhh!
    Paul S_3
  • Tinman
    Tinman Member Posts: 2,808
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    Wow. Just wow.
    Steve Minnich
    Paul S_3
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,295
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    Yikes
    E-Travis Mechanical LLC
    Etravismechanical@gmail.com
    201-887-8856
    Paul S_3
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited August 2016
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    yes...this is my second one this year with similar work....i think its the same contractor.....i wish i had pics of the air conditioning work before i fixed it....i was originally called for a condensate leak from sweating ductwork.....i ran all new correctly sized and insulated ducts....the customer asked for a high efficiency boiler and they gave him this direct vent.......Oh and all circulator pumps had internal flow checks with the external B&G flo control valves
    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    ASMMECHANICALCORP@GMAIL.COM
    ASMHVACNYC.COM
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/asm-mechanical-company
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 22,139
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    plumbing and electrical work by the same contractor?
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • Gordy
    Gordy Member Posts: 9,546
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    Nice rack........

    Hard on the taper Paul :D
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
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    @hot rod no i dont thinks so...both are butchered
    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    ASMMECHANICALCORP@GMAIL.COM
    ASMHVACNYC.COM
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/asm-mechanical-company
  • Firecontrol933
    Firecontrol933 Member Posts: 73
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    My eyes hurt.
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,835
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    All together now >:) ........................
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • New England SteamWorks
    New England SteamWorks Member Posts: 1,505
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    A nice thing about home running every radiator is you could potentially put a thermostat in every room. I did that in my great big Victorian. Any more than two big radiators in a loop, the water cools too fast anyway. Initially I thought I'd use the individual thermostats to lower the temp in the unused rooms, but this ended up being impractical for the most part and I saw little savings. I have all Honeywell 8000s, so what I do now is keep all the rooms at 67º. Then when I enter a room I intend to stay in for a while I can get decadent and raise the temp to 72º. With the 8000 you just push the up arrow for the new temp you want, then tell it how long you want it to remain at that new temp. When times up it will automatically revert. Easy.
    New England SteamWorks
    Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
    newenglandsteamworks.com
  • Paul S_3
    Paul S_3 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited September 2016
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    Finished up today...All is working well....Homerun each radiator....reverse return setup.....i know i couldve ran each loop perfectly straight....but im mobbed with calls and had to get this one done...Boiler is still oversized but system works now......






    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    ASMMECHANICALCORP@GMAIL.COM
    ASMHVACNYC.COM
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/asm-mechanical-company
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,295
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    Nice job Paul
    E-Travis Mechanical LLC
    Etravismechanical@gmail.com
    201-887-8856
    Paul S_3
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,061
    edited September 2016
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    Customer did not pay enough for the original installation.....$3,500,000 divided by $99,999.99 (counting your X's to the max) is only 3.5% of the value of the house. He got a bargain and that was what the heating system was maybe worth.

    Even a forced air/AC job in a track house is about easily over 5 % of the value of house. IMO

    Yes, a very nice job to upgrade the "new" install.

    And why should you feel bad.....I know I've been there myself on a much smaller scale for many "fix ups". It is the syndrome experienced by many tradesmen to apologize as you repair the previous knuckleheads mess.
    Paul S_3Solid_Fuel_Man

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