new system put in by plumber

Jerry_7

I had a new heating system put in and got rid of my water heater for an indirect water heater. I don't think the system was put in right. The old one had a pump on the bottom and this one has the pumps on the top. I haven't paid him yet because I want to make sure he did it right. Another plumber said you should put the pump on the bottom so that it pulls the water instead of pushing it.

Bill_18

New system

Is the water hot? If so pay the man.

Floyd_5

From what I can tell......

from the pics., you should be just fine...... the guy that did you're system knows that actually the "old" way of doing things does not work as well as the way that he did it for you. The system set up the way he has it should work just fine. I can see a few minor things that I would have done differently, but they shouldn't affect the performance of the system significatly.
Pay the guy... he earned his money.

Floyd

zeb_3

pay the installer ..............

zeb_3

if .....

if you have heat and hot h2o then pay the installer, he did a nice looking job

lchmb

FYI

There are alway's different opinion's of either pumping away or pulling back. I myself like to pump away (as your system is). If everything is running nice and neat and you recieved everything you were supposed to I would say write the check..:)

clammy

pay up

From the looks of the area the guy had alot of glutter and wood to work aroung yet everything looks good .This guy even followed the chk valve instruction leaving distance between the discharge of the pump and the flow chk ,low water cut off and a spriovent ,unions on the tank and a mixing valve the guy did a real nice job given the room he had to do it hats off the your installer and pay him your job is done.peace clammy

jim lockard

another vote

Pay up Jerry the guy did a nice job.

S Ebels

\"another plumber\"

You should tell that guy (the another plumber guy)to start hanging around here and learn a few new tricks and the right way to do things.

Your install looks very good. Don't see any reason not to pay the guy. He did a nice job.

chuck shaw

Time to break out the check book

the install looks great. If you are so concerned about what "the other plumber" said, why didnt you hire him in the first place.

REB

Robert O'Connor_7

Jerry...

Have you ever watched that show "Monster Garage"? If so, try to remember what Jesse James had a tattoo of on his hand...."Pay Up Sucker"...... All kidding aside, it looks as though you got a fine lookin job there..Robert O'Connor/NJ

Weezbo

Whaterver you think you thought forget it!

Pay the guy and dont forget that we also like to here the words Thank You Youve done a fine job.....from time to time.

Alan(CaliforniaRadiant)Forbes

That man

knows what he's doing. He took a lot of pride in installing a system that will last many years. And he used the best materials available.

I'd give him double what he asked for. Offer to send his children to college. Pay all his medical and dental bills...........forever. How about an all expense paid vacation for him and his wonderful family?



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Ted_9

You know what bothers me? This home owner thinks one thing isnt right and hes ready to hold out on the money, even though he knows at that moment that the hot water works fine.

Its nice to see that your asking questions, but did you ask the plumber doing the job about his piping techniche?


Patriot Heating & Cooling, Inc.

ScottMP

Job looks just Fine

Why not a tip and a " great Job ".

The other plumber probable did'nt get the job. Your installer did a fine job and left valves for future serving of your equipment. You'll be saving money in the future since service calls will be quicker.

$ 50.00 gift certificate to a local resturaunt would be nice.

Scott

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Tony_8

I think

Your "second opinion" is jealous. He didn't get the job, so he's finding fault, even when there is NONE. Well maybe one, that "service # sticker" on the water heater is crooked

If I had help that installed like that, I could take a month off and see Alaska or something !

PAY THE MAN.

Jim S

Pay up

Sounds like the other plumber has a problem seeing things done differently.

Constantin

Looks good to me...

...but then again, I'm just a homeowner. If there was one thing I would do, it's remove all the combustibles from around the boiler.

Granted, it is extremely unlikely that anything bad will happen with the new appliance, however I think it a good idea to clear an area around any combustion appliance to prevent bad things from growing into catastrophic things. Plus, the folks servicing the equipment will appreciate having room to do so.

Another fun DIY project would be to insulate all the pipes running through the basement into the rest of your house. Speeds heating response and saves money too.

Lastly, I personally would have preferred a sealed combustion appliance, i.e. one that draws its air from outside the building. However, there is nothing inherently wrong with the install, people have been doing it this way for years.

So, add my vote to the "pay up!" crowd.

Dave Yates (PAH)

make that $75.00

He installed a backflow preventer and utilized a high-end air eliminator that cost him at least $75.00 more than the old style products. He also piped the relief to the far side, when he could have saved copper by placing the relief valve's discharge line to the left.

I once had a customer refuse to pay us when we pumped away. His friend, a plumber, said we'd placed the pumps on the wrong lines (supply instead of return). Said he wanted to give us the opportunity to correct the defect or he'd hire his friend to do the work and hold us responsible for the added expense! It took a lot of 'splainin to get him to see the light and I ran into his buddy a few months later at a supply house. I'm pretty sure he got my message loud and clear(G). Armchair hydronicians!
Along with a hearty thanks and nice tip, you should print out this thread for him to keep. Click on "File", drop down to "send page" and email the thread to yourself. Once received, open the email & then click anywhere within the thread - then press down the "Ctrl" and letter "A" keys to highlight the entire thread. Next press "Ctrl" and the letter "C" to copy this to the clipboard. Open MS Word & click in the document. Press "Ctrl" + the letter "V" to paste the thread. Hit print.

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David Sutton_5

Jerry...

David Sutton_5

Jerry...

the man who put your boiler did a very good job.he was neat and it sure looks to me that he cares about what he dose and will be there for you if anything gose wrong..


i'm in the pay him crowd!!!!!
David Sutton
Co.owner beacon mechancal services

R. Kalia_5

believe what you hear on this board

Let me just add that I am a homeowner, and I have asked questions about my installation here. People here don't automatically say "pay up", they will tell you if the installation is not right. In this case, if you are being told there is no problem, then there is no problem.

Weezbo

Alan .You didnt plumb this boiler on a 2 am service call....

one day before coming home did you?....this reply of yours sounds sorta suspicious:))) well,whoever did the work even if he was comming home from a job and did it in his sleeep does deserve a pat on the back rather than a kick in the seat... there is one of the biggest problems i see with our work. we are laden with work way past drudgery dronedom and arguing with people is energy we could spend more productively....giving classes in fluid thermodynamics at the end of a job for free just rounds out the day though. Are you Sure a fishing trip for Marlin wouldnt be a reasonable indication the guys doing a fair days work?

jim lockard

Buy your plumber

friend one of Dans books Jerry. Go to books and more in the left hand corner and purchase "pumping away".

jim lockard

one hundred would

be nicer and worth every penny.

Steamhead

Old vs. New way of piping boilers

Mad Dog

You got a top-notch job and

The best American-made ball valves money can buy: Apollo. The guy used plenty of hangars and an expensive air eliminator. Pay this man asap, with a well-deserved tip. Tell your heating "expert" buddy to keep his inane comments to himself, take a seminar or two, and maybe crack a trade magazine once in awhile instead of the beer. And, yeah, he would do himself and his hapless victims reams of good by coming to The Wall for some BASIC, Twentieth (That's right 2oth century...progressive contractors have been doing this for the last 1/4 of the 20th century)Century heating practices and customs. Once again, you got a top-notch job....consider yourself lucky you found such a conscientious mechanic. Mad Dog

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Mad Dog

exactly!!!!

His buddy was probably "too busy".....Mad Dog

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Steamhead

Old vs. New way of piping boilers

My boiler was originally piped with the circulator on the return, and it worked much better after I moved the circ to the supply, pumping away from the expansion tank.

Your installer knows his work. Pay him well, and refer others to him.

gerry gill

yup, nice work

time to write the check...

sigshooter

nice job

The plumber did a nice job.He definitely takes pride in his work.And the circulator pumps should always be on the supply less air problems.The other plumber should learn the better way to pipe boilers. Pay the man he busted his ****.

Jim Eggers_2

trying to learn

> time to write the check...

Jim Eggers_2

trying to learn

> time to write the check...

Jim Eggers_2

trying to learn

> time to write the check...

Jim Eggers_2

trying to learn

I am a plumber-pipefitter that loves hydronics and really
loves doing it right. I have a couple questions 1Why make
up water to the storage tank? What is the angle valve on
that line? What is the reason for the tank.

just asking thankyou P.S. Nice workmanship

Jim S

I`m not sure wat you mean by "storage tank" but if you`re referring to the indirect,it takes the place of a conventional gas fired water heater and is piped like another zone off the boiler.

Much more energy efficient than your average water heater due to minimum standby losses. and a much better provider of hot water when wired as a priority zone.

Not sure which valve you`re referring to though perhaps you can clarify.

chuck shaw

WOW!!!!

almost looks like this was a plant....just to get us wallies hot and excited...

chuck

Jerry_7

The other plumber

was too busy and he was also 1500 dollars cheaper. The only reason I ask is because the guy that put it in looked like he was about 18 years old

Jim Eggers_2

Gotcha

It is the valve below the supply valve to the water heater
understanding that I am to asume it is vacuum protection
MAYBE? THANKYOU

Weezbo

if you cant see straight theres no sence disscussing this...

go to another site hvac and check out thier wall of Shame....get a Grasp of what is straight and what aint...its like telling someone something when it rolls in one ear and out the other....

Mad Dog

Bothers me too

Guy does a superb job and now all the ho's critics come out of the woodwork to knock him down. Mad Dog

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