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New steam boiler - day 1

On Jericho TPKE in Mad Dog's home town . It's not fun feeding the meters every hour on an install . It's even less fun when the boss wants the job done in one day , and you have only 2 helpers - one's a rookie , the stairs are steep , the basement is pack rat city and it's raining like the end of the world . Needless to say , we have to go back tomorrow . Thats Kenny looking at wires , I think . I hope .


  • How far we got

    We disconnected the boiler and moved it to the side for another company to remove . We installed a Peerless ECT 5 and are reusing the Riello burner . And I do love those drop headers - the last nipple wasn't the right size , so the extra swing made it line up no problem .
  • [Deleted User]
    nice header

    can't wait to see more pictures.
  • Joe_13
    Joe_13 Member Posts: 201

    Seeing that nice new Riello on that rusted hulk. I don't think that Ferrari burner was going to help the Titanic's engine room. LOL.
  • Mark Hunt
    Mark Hunt Member Posts: 4,909

    The drink of true wetheads!(At work anyway!)

    Nice looking job Ron!

    I get to go look at one of those Levitt style homes this Friday. Wait until they see what I propose!

    Mark H

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  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,113

    excellent drop header beautiful work ron always a pleasure to see your stuff i believe you have that one licked for tommorow i'm waiting for the next steamer to come in my bosses rush me also good luck i hear them playing my tune i'm on call chow
    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
  • Gonna have the completed pics

    tomorrow . I wanted to get a frontal shot , but theres too much crap in the way . Thanks Gerry .
  • My co workers

    Phil and Sal installed the water heater a few months ago , and as a bonus they threw a Riello in the old boiler . Sorta like putting a new heart in a cadaver .
  • So , whats the true drink

    for wetheads after hours ? Thanks Mark , this was one of those days where the header went together smoothly - all the 2 inch lined up perfectly .

    So whats the game plan in the Levitt ? Theres a limit to how many zones you can hook into a boiler under the stairs , or hanging off the floor . What the limit is , I'm not sure , but I bet you're gonna push it a little .
  • Yep

    I'm gonna give him a choice - done fast or done right , and option 1 aint an option . Actually we got more done than I thought we would with all the hassles . Thank you Clammy .
  • kevin coppinger_4
    kevin coppinger_4 Member Posts: 2,124
    Why do you increase...

    to 3"? Could you keep it at 2" and get the same effect? kpc
  • bob young
    bob young Member Posts: 2,177
    snapple vs. budweiser

    back in the old days those would definetly have been beer cans. lol
  • bob young
    bob young Member Posts: 2,177
    2\" to 3\"

    works as a steam drum drier steam
  • kevin coppinger_4
    kevin coppinger_4 Member Posts: 2,124
    I don't know...

    dunkin donuts coffe is pretty popular....kpc
  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,884
    U h oh

    Copper returns !

    Well, I have to say something! If we we keep heaping praise on your the boilers will fit but not your head :).

    You Go Boy.


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  • Dave Palmer_3
    Dave Palmer_3 Member Posts: 388
    dumb question

    no pig tail on pressure-trols?Nice work Ron,looks like you have a level floor too,lucky s.o.b., Dave
  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,884
  • David Sutton_3
    David Sutton_3 Member Posts: 160
    Ron youda man buddy

    Ron keep up the good work your making us all look good.
  • Yes , it slows the velocity

    of the steam coming out of the boiler , and Peerless requires that size for this boiler . I think it worked - not a bang or a ping after I cleaned the system out .
  • That piping comes from

    the 88 Weil Mclain steam boiler manual . I think it's easier to install that way and you don't get the pigtail sway if you use mercury pressuretrols . I also like the full 3/4 size so nothing gets clogged up . Dave , the floor was pretty level , but with a 5 section ECT , it makes its own level . Thank you Dave and Scott .
  • Next time

    I will paint the copper returns black , maybe even stencil in some white at the ells to look like Teflon . Hey wait , after the time it takes to paint and stecil , I coulda done it all in black . Thanks Scott .
  • I sure am trying

    I had to go back today to finish . Didn't get a helping hand till 2 pm . Thanks Dave
  • Finished job

    I know Scotty - copper returns . If you have a good photo software program , can you change them to black for me ?

    I had to go out the front with the skim once again because it was impossible to pull out the factory installed 1 1/2 inch flat plug in the back . After 2 cut knuckles I give up on crap like that . Peerless is also going cheap with the draw rods and send these boilers with the thinner , WBV size rods . When we pulled the boiler back together I thought the rods were gonna snap . They also sent the wrong steam trim - the gauge glass and the brass rods were too short . We also had to use a 24 volt manual reset LWCO , and of course it did not work , sensing low water when it was plenty full .

    Other than all that , the boiler steamed up real good . After purging the returns of crap and skimming the boiler , I stuck around a good 45 minutes to clean up and not a bang in the place .
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,899

    it's easier to clean out than the usual pigtail. Once again- beautiful job.

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  • Tom DeBrum
    Tom DeBrum Member Posts: 18
    Finished job

    Very neat job, really clean look.
    It shows you enjoy your work.
  • steve_6
    steve_6 Member Posts: 243

    nice looking job Ron. How many man hours did you have into it???
  • With the new kid

    it was 32 man hours . Not the best job for the rookie to learn to Teflon pipes . We also had a separate company remove the old boiler , but we had to disconnect it and move it aside . The other crew probably saved us 2 hours . Thank you Steve .
  • Oh , I enjoy it when it's done

    Getting there is what I could enjoy a little more . Thanks Tom .
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