Magnetic Water Conditioning?

[Deleted User]

Hey Wallies,

I have a customer who requested a water softner. I quoted it and then he asked about magnetic water conditioning. I have searched the web for info. To no avail.

Does anyone have info on this topic? Web sites about the products?

Thanks for the help,

Mike

ed wallace

magnetic water softening

either Field controls or Tjernland was selling that device a year or 2 back

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Jamie Hall

uh... right

very dubious. Don't you go and guarantee it...

Troy_3

Snake oil

I think you can search it out on the web under SNAKE-OIL.

Mike Kraft

Troy.........

nailed that one!And Tony Connor will tell you............use the chemicals!

cheese

Richard Miller_2

I found the bestest and latest technology in water treatment. Salt type systems are obsolete and magnetics are unproven. This stuff is WAY COOL! It s expensive but operation costs are low. Let me know if you want more info!

Tony Conner

It's Not So Much...

...use chemicals, as it is use chemicals properly. If a given system is installed in a mechanically proper way, then you've just eliminated about 75% of what are commonly thought of as "chemical" problems. Make it right mechanically, then just use chemicals, if necessary, to tidy-up.

hr

Do you mean

for domestic water use? If so you really need to test, or have the water tested. Get a list of their complaints and expectations. A softner will do little for chlorine taste or smell. Softners, alone, are a bad choice for high iron content.

Without knowing what is in the water it is really hard to determine what equipment, and what size, is needed.

A water softner may, or may not, be what they need, and other treatment may need to be added, like RO or carbon filters.

I have magnets and a softner on my home! Hot side only. Also an automatic backwash iron filter. Charcol filters under the kitchen sink. I also test yearly for bacteria, as none of these devices would handle that.

Test, don't guess

hot rod

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[Deleted User]

My personal experiences....

have all been extremely positive. I respect Tony Connors for his experience and opinions,and as I've always stated, I recommend their use for DHW heating only, NOT critical steam systems.

That said, I can only tell you, that with the exception of some "glass water" (silica based) in Texas, they have worked every where in the elimination of calcification of heated and cooled surfaces. I've used them in cooling applications (ice makers) and DHW systems (you name it) and they DO work. If you ask me HOW they work, I will have to default to "I'm not sure how they work, but bottom line they work".

If you want to do a comprehensive internet search, go to google.com and enter (in quotes)"Do magnetic water conditioners work" and see what pops up.

It's all subjective Mike, but I remember a gambling buddy of yours on the back side of Grapevine road (the cow
boy) that had the Heatamaker (AKA Hatemaker) that we installed a magnetic conditoner on his system.

As I remember, his DHW coil was notorious for liming up annualy. If in fact this system has NOT worked, I'd appreciate your letting me know, because I am still promoting this technology.

If it worked for your buddy, it'll work for any one in the Colorado region.

Let the "proof" be in the pudding (satisfied customers).

Keep in touch pal.

ME

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Dave_4

check out water pseudoscience & quackery

http://www.sfu.ca/aqua/

....H20 dot con ....

kevin_5

Google search Nikken

Nikken is a multi level marketing company that advertises some sort of magnetic water treatment system for drinking water. They claim it breaks down water "clusters" somehow, and also adds back beneficial minerals that RO systems remove.

I'm not promoting the idea, just passing on the info. Maybe it sounds crazy, but so does the idea of making water "wetter" yet we all know there's something to that idea whether we can explain it or not.
I generally have a bad taste about multi level marketing companies, but that doesn't mean their products aren't effective or valuable. I don't reject an idea out of hand just because so called "science" can't explain it. Majority science is always playing catch up. Experts rejected Galileo and Copernicus, taught the earth was flat, bled people to heal sickness, and are still convinced that my anscestors were monkeys. By the way, 600 years B.C. the prophet Isaiah wrote, "God hangs the circle of the earth on nothing." About a thousand years before that Moses wrote, "The life of the flesh is in the blood." Kevin