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Adding new Boiler

ecurbjk
ecurbjk Member Posts: 9

Hi All,

I have a small underfloor heating setup and the primary hot-water source is a 10 gallon tank heated by solar. It heats the water up to about 90 degrees F into the loops and 80 degrees F on the cold return, feeding 4 loops about 250 feet each. I purchased a new Thermolec 3K mini boiler and air separator to add to the system. I need some advice on the correct location of the new boiler and separator. Can I feed the hot water outlet from the hot water tank to the cold inlet of the boiler and then the hot outlet of the boiler to the loops. The cold return from the loops would feed the cold of the hot water tank? see attacked pic. Also, what would be the best location for the air separator?

If my thinking is in correct, any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

Bruce

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Comments

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 26,525

    Is that expansion tank on the INLET side of the pump? I hope so.

    Otherwise the general concept looks good.

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • Kaos
    Kaos Member Posts: 760
    edited October 31

    I would install the boiler on the hot feed to the floor heat loops. Set the boiler to a temperature bellow what your solar can deliver. This way the boiler will only run if solar is not putting out enough heat.

    Something like solar tank→air sep→pump→boiler→heating loop.

  • GGross
    GGross Member Posts: 1,654
    edited October 31

    just saw you are keeping the solar disregard my drawing

  • ecurbjk
    ecurbjk Member Posts: 9

    Yes , the expansion tank is on the inlet side of the pump. I read the pumping away book.

    So from the comments, it sounds like I maybe on the right track with:

    solar tank hot outlet → air separator → pump→ boiler inlet → boiler outlet → heating loop hot → heating loop cold return → expansion tank → pump → solar tank cold inlet.

    Are you suggesting a second pump?

    Thanks

    Bruce

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  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,934

    Is the solar a closed loop glycol system with a solar heat exchanger or solar tank?

    Also, turn the Grundfos so the motor faces out, when you make the changes.

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • ecurbjk
    ecurbjk Member Posts: 9

    I have a 4 kilowatt solar array that keeps my Pytes batteries charged and Victron inverters that send AC to the 10 gallon water tank. If I have a day or two of no sun I need the boiler to kick in.

    To add the boiler to the setup is this correct:


    solar tank hot outlet → air separator → pump→ boiler inlet → boiler outlet → heating loop hot → heating loop cold return → expansion tank → pump → solar tank cold inlet.

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  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,934

    The Sun Bandit is a clever approach to PV- DHWH. PV power directly to the tank, eliminate the inverter hit.

    You can buy DC elements if you shop around and build your own PV dhw tank.

    There are piping or control methods to let you use either or, or even both at the same time.

    A Resol controll has all these functions built in.

    https://sunbandit.us/

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • Kaos
    Kaos Member Posts: 760

    Pretty much. Move the existing pump to the supply (hot water outlet) side, you don't need a 2nd one on the return.

    Out of curiosity, what are you using as the diversion controls?