Welcome! Here are the website rules, as well as some tips for using this forum.
Need to contact us? Visit https://heatinghelp.com/contact-us/.
Click here to Find a Contractor in your area.

What is causing this?

Northshoremb
Northshoremb Member Posts: 10

Ok i just took the cover off wall for upstairs run at the house we just moved into and seen this. What caused this and how do you fix it? We are rural so not like someone can just come over and look easily cause about 45 min from nearest City. I'm very mechanically inclined and have no issue tackling it just need to know cause and what to replace. Looks like a brown (presume rust mixed with Glycol) but is that pressure overflow or is that there to tell someone there is a failure? There are 3 that look like this.

Comments

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 10,806

    Just clean that stuff off with a ScotchBrite pad or some steel wool.  even plumbers grit cloth.   There is a miniscule leak that is of no concern.  By the time the water leaks out it evaporates leaving any minerals behind.  you are seeing those minerals (possibly iron oxides) just like if you let some water evaporate in a container over a few months.  If there is anything suspended or dissolved in that water, it will stay behind after the water evaporates, leaving a telltale sign of its existence.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 6,345

    the second and third pictures are concerning. It that a casting, looks like it’s leaking from the flats for a wrenching point.

    PC7060
  • Northshoremb
    Northshoremb Member Posts: 10

    ya not sure if came out that upper opening and flowed down or if came from the connection. If system is off cause summer is it safe to unscrew, clean and put back together since its glycol or should i just clean it and see if i can tighten any and keep eye on it once fall starts and use heat?

    There was an error displaying this embed.
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 6,345

    not if it’s the casting?

    PC7060
  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,704

    remove and replace the check valve.

  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,704

    Add a couple pictures from couple foot back so we can see the configuration and any isolation valves in the area. If you use the picture icon to attach the photos, it will save us from having to open each JPEG.

    Northshoremb
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,431

    If it is glycol, that dark color often indicates the glycol has gone acidic It will attack the soft metals

    I would flush the system, run a cleaner, then refill

    If there are no pipes exposed to freezing, you may not need glycol

    Those look like the older flow setters that you clamped a meter around to read. I don’t see a reason for check valves on the loops?

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    mattmia2
  • Northshoremb
    Northshoremb Member Posts: 10

    ill take some photos in next few days when i can get to the pantry its in. Just redoing Kitchen and 1 of the cabinets is in the way. The house was built 2007 so all this Hydronic is from then. This was from the upstairs manifolds and loop as the downstairs manifolds I never seen anything like that on them.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,716

    It sure looks like something ate through that fitting.

  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,700

    @mattmia2 I thought so too until I took another look at the first picture in the original post. That pic shows discharge at 9 and 3 o'clock on the fitting. If you look behind that fitting in the same picture, you can see a perfectly round hole that seems to me to be a round hole made by the manufacturer. They look like "weep holes," which tells me the fitting is doing what it was designed to do. Take another look? What's going on there?

    mattmia2
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,716

    What is the clip on thing that @hot_rod talks about? Are they like Pete's ports where the device taps in to measure the pressure on both sides of the orifice?

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,431

    I think you have the electronic Tru flow style if there is no visual window

    There was a meter ghat clamped around them to read flow

    I believe the visual type git the sane dimension

    Or extend the pex and do away with them altogether


    Ebay may be the only source, go 10 bucks you could buy a

    Here are the two types

    IMG_0782.png IMG_0783.png
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,716

    Are those little plastic or glass windows in the clamp on type?

  • Northshoremb
    Northshoremb Member Posts: 10

    II've Been trying to search everywhere online to find a fitting that looks the same but can't. These look like light rectangle "Ports" or "windows" that couple have leaked who knows when. The heat is off for summer so no idea when or if they always leak but want to find out what parts to change before fall so ready for when heat does start

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 13,716

    they have been superseded by the version with the big window and the bead.