new oil burner and water tank/indirect

insurance2025

Well, supposedly, my superstor 80 gallon indirect water tank is leaking from the back right base when pressure goes up—-

The weil mclane gold furnace seems to be in good shape.

I am being recommended to replace whole system with the system 2000. It has a 40 gallon storage tank.

Is the sys 2000 any good? should I replace my furnace and indirect water heater with a peerless system? Pls help.

jesmed1

I am a homeowner/engineer, not a heating pro. However, I have looked at the EK System 2000 for my 4-unit condo building.

The EK System 2000 is very good, and very efficient for indirect DHW. So you would probably gain some efficiency and save some $$ on heating oil.

The question is how much gain. That depends on your current setup. How old is your Weil McLain boiler? What model/size is it? How much oil do you burn per year? Where do you live (climate)? How many square feet is your house?

Obviously, at a minimum you could simply replace your indirect tank. That gives you time to research alternatives and get better informed for when the boiler goes and you need to replace it.

If you are in a hurry and have the $$ for an EK System 2000, it would be hard to go wrong with that. But I hate to waste perfectly good existing equipment, so if you can get a few more years out of your Weil McLain boiler while you save up $$ for an EK System 2000, that gives you more time to make an informed choice.

SuperTech

The EK System 2000 is probably the best thing you can get. That price is not bad in my opinion. I agree that your current boiler might have some life left in it, but you can't go wrong with getting an EK boiler.

insurance2025

Thank you Jesmed1 and SuperTech, I truly appreciate your feedback.

Addl facts: the Weil Gold furnace is from approx 1999. beckett

3 bedroom bath house with a jacuzzi that is never used. The SuperStor is 80 gallons also from about 1999.

House square footage about 3100.

approx 1,350 gallons of oil

orig estimate 3/21/22 for the sys 2000 furnace and 40 gallon water tank

Seems crazy that 2025, there is no additional modern solution. My wife refuses to allow us to change to natural gas or propane, and electric would be too expensive.

I was thinking of running an electric line and getting a 55 gallon electric water heater.

If any other thoughts/comments, all are welcome. Thank you, Larry

EBEBRATT-Ed

Electric WH is a cheap way out for now if you don't want to do the boiler now. 1999 means the boiler is 26 years old so who knows how long it will last could be a few years could be 10-15 years.

Buy the EK now or

Buy some time with the electric WH while you save for the EK.

jesmed1

You don't say where you live (climate) which affects the balance of oil used for heating vs. for hot water. But at current oil prices here in Boston, (under $4/gal) you're "only" spending around $5k/year in oil.

Depending on how inefficient your current setup is, you could reasonably save 20% or more per year with an EK 2000, so maybe $1k/year savings. But again, that is highly dependent on how efficient/inefficient your current setup is. Without a heating pro who really knows how to calculate actual efficiencies of installed systems, it's hard to say, and even many pros don't know how to do this accurately. So it's a bit of a guess at this point.

Your electric rates will determine whether an electric water heater makes sense, so you should check your rates.

We also have two late 1990's Weil McLains, and I figure we may get 10 more years out of them. So we'll run them as long as we can.

But the System 2000 is as efficient as you can get without adding the headaches of condensing boilers or switching to gas. So if you have the $$ and feel like you need to make a move now, the System 2000 is probably your best bet.

ethicalpaul

Good time to buy an electric water heater (traditional or heat pump as you prefer) and separate these two systems like they should be.

HVACNUT

Site rules don't allow pricing here. If the boiler is a GO-4 or bigger, get the System 2000 now because what's there is oversized anyway. And their 40 gallon water heater probably recovers much faster that an 80 Super Stor. Because I'm willing to bet pipe size, and/or circulator size is wrong.

I prefer oil fired, and the Carlin EZ-1 that's packaged with the EK-1 Frontier is a good match, however, your wife should not be the least bit concerned if the burner were to be a Carlin EZ Gas in the Frontier. If you want to get the gas piping itself inspected, great, but today's gas fired boilers and furnaces have so many safeties, you almost have to purposely rig it to cause a dangerous situation. Also when commissioning the boiler, a combustion test will (should) be done. Then annual maintenance, whether oil or gas. I do like the fact I can flick a match into a bucket of #2 fuel oil and just keep on walking without a care.

JayMcCay

Hi Larry

Thanks Jesmed1 and SuperTech for your comments. Larry I would be happy to take a deep dive into your options and saving! Please reach out at your convenience my mobile number is 908 328-7154  

Thanks

Jay

HeatingHelp.com

Like @HVACNUT mentioned, our site rules prohibit pricing and I have edited those out of your posts. Thanks for your understanding and for seeking advice here with our community.