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Water level anomaly

ddog777
ddog777 Member Posts: 18
edited December 1 in Strictly Steam

I have a 15-year-old weil mclain , one pipe system with manual water feed, that makes great steam. I've been noticing that the water level in the gauge glass actually increases after several cycles. Is this even possible? I would suspect the fill valve (ball valve) might be leaking through, but the level was constant through the entire summer shutdown. Another steam system mystery, any thoughts??

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  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 6,660

    are you sure it’s not lowering during the first cycle then taking a long time to recover back, making it look like the level is rising?

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  • ddog777
    ddog777 Member Posts: 18

    it lowers when it starts to steam, but at the end of the cycle and beyond, in a steady state, it exceeds the fill mark I placed on the boiler with a sharpie

  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 6,660

    I don’t have an explanation but maybe you can sell the extra created water

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  • neilc
    neilc Member Posts: 2,854

    same as water expands in a heating boiler, that same water expands in the steamer,

    might be hard to say now in heating season, but if boiler cools off enough, doesn't the level drop back down to your fill line

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  • Long Beach Ed
    Long Beach Ed Member Posts: 1,319
    edited November 30

    Here's what to check: Leaking manual feed valve, leaking automatic feeder valve, hanging float in automatic feeder/low water cutoff, malfunctioning or improperly set electronic low water cutoff/feeder, Improperly installed low water cutoff/feeder, leaking wet return, leaking domestic hot water coil (if equipped).

    A properly piped boiler will have unions on each of these which can be opened to check them.

    How much higher does it fill after steaming?

  • 109A_5
    109A_5 Member Posts: 1,660

    From Google AI.

    Thermal expansion:

    When water is heated, its molecules move faster and spread out, increasing its volume. For example, water expands by about 4% when heated from room temperature to its boiling point.

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