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Maximum Comfort in Sub-Zero Temperatures: Meet Bosch's IDS Ultra Cold Climate Heat Pump

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HeatingHelp Posts: 731
edited November 2024 in THE MAIN WALL
imageMaximum Comfort in Sub-Zero Temperatures: Meet Bosch's IDS Ultra Cold Climate Heat Pump

Bosch becomes the first manufacturer to launch a cold climate heat pump developed for DOE Challenge.

Read the full story here

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  • D107
    D107 Posts: 1,950

    Is this air to air or air to water?

  • DCContrarian
    DCContrarian Posts: 1,560

    "Bosch’s IDS Ultra can support climates reaching temperatures as low as -13° F, with a 100% heating capacity down to 5° F. The IDS Ultra also achieves this greater capacity at a significantly higher efficiency, a COP of 2.1. It is also compliant with the new low global warming potential (GWP) A2L refrigerant requirements. The IDS Ultra is the first cold climate heat pump to market that meets these criteria from the DOE Challenge."

    The only thing there that hasn't been around for a decade or so from manufacturers like Mitsubishi and Fujitsu of EVI compressors is the low-GWP refrigerant.

    Hot_water_fanJOutterbridge
  • DCContrarian
    DCContrarian Posts: 1,560
    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/1818534#Comment_1818534

    Air to air. I have to say this press release is spectacularly poorly written.

    JOutterbridge
  • HeatingHelp.com
    HeatingHelp.com Posts: 271

    @D107, it's air-to-air. More info here.

    Forum Moderator

    JOutterbridge
  • DCContrarian
    DCContrarian Posts: 1,560

    With the sunsetting of R410A all of the manufacturers are having to revamp their product lines. This is an opportunity to upgrade to the latest technology.

  • JOutterbridge
    JOutterbridge Posts: 21
    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/1818540#Comment_1818540

    Yeah I agree. The article definitely could be written better. The performance specs given by the moderator look good though. I wonder what kinda premium these units will have. Consumers will want it but can we afford them?

  • Hot_water_fan
    Hot_water_fan Posts: 2,244

    I would say that this has been accomplished 10 years ago by Mitsubishi but the low end efficiency and the new refrigerant are both improvements. Nicely done Bosch!

    ethicalpaulJOutterbridge
  • DCContrarian
    DCContrarian Posts: 1,560
    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/1818667#Comment_1818667

    The existing Mitsubishi units seem pretty reasonably priced. I think the bigger problem is there's so much misinformation and dated information out there about heat pumps that a lot of consumers aren't willing to try them.

    ethicalpaulJOutterbridge
  • D107
    D107 Posts: 1,950

    @DCContrarian True, but also in certain areas the electric rates are high enough to keep me happily heating with my standard gas Peerless. Long run, I think any system that can both heat and cool will win out eventually.

    JOutterbridge

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