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Should this Pipe be Aligned to be More on Top of the Hole?

Hi all,

I have a hot water heater that has the top of a pipe lined up like this against the tank.



Is this normal or okay as-is, or should that pipe be more aligned to the hole at the bottom so that the steam goes right up into the pipe?

Thank you for your help!

Comments

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 9,626
    edited February 2024
    Yes it should be aligned Differently, No it is not OK
    There is a piece missing. It is called the draft hood

    The draft hood is the black part between the blue top of the water heater and the silver vent pipe.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    Larry WeingartenSTEAM DOCTOR
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,459
    Whoever left it like that should not be in the business. That's a carbon monoxide event waiting to happen. Shut it down NOW.

    There is a piece that sits on top of the heater called a "draft hood" and the smoke pipe connects to that. If you can't find it on site, order one from the manufacturer and have a pro hook everything up.
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  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,243
    NO !!! It is not all right at all!
    The vent pipe is disconnected from the water heater and is venting exhaust into the building. This can get folks sick and even killed.
    The vent pipe needs to be installed and secured to the water heater and draft hood that is missing from the picture.
    Do not run the water heater until this is corrected.
    STEAM DOCTOR
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 9,626
    edited February 2024
    What you are calling a "steam vent" is not a steam vent. It is an exhaust vent. Just like the exhaust vent on a car with a gasoline engine. That exhaust vent may be allowing dangerous amounts of carbon monoxide into your home. If you don't want to shut off that water heater... then don't go to sleep in that home.

    I would pick a warm home over hot water in the cold months of winter. So turn off the gas to the water heater.

    Unless the heater that is keeping the home warm is vented the same way, Then I would see if Tom Bodett left the light on for you

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    Intplm.STEAM DOCTOR
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,450
    Shut it Off

    STEAM DOCTORmattmia2
  • yellowdog
    yellowdog Member Posts: 188
    Look on the floor for the draft hood. When the snow slid off the roof and moved the vent pipe it probably flipped it off onto the floor.
    Intplm.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,353
    yellowdog said:

    Look on the floor for the draft hood. When the snow slid off the roof and moved the vent pipe it probably flipped it off onto the floor.


    Doesn't look like there's enough vertical clearance for a drafthood to fit.

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • yellowdog
    yellowdog Member Posts: 188
    That pipe slides up and down thru the roof flange. Nothing secures it except the storm collar above the roof flange(silicone, if they even did it). The drafthood only takes up about 3" of height on a natural draft water heater. Based on what the installation as a whole looks like, the installer probably threw the draft regulator away when he put the water heater in.
    ChrisJ
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,450
    espionage said:

    Hi all,

    I have a hot water heater that has the top of a pipe lined up like this against the tank.



    Is this normal or okay as-is, or should that pipe be more aligned to the hole at the bottom so that the steam goes right up into the pipe?

    Thank you for your help!

    Whats with the Red Burries on top?
  • yellowdog
    yellowdog Member Posts: 188
    @pecmsg Look to the left of where it goes thru the roof. You can see some pitch hanging down. More than likely, the hotter temps under the roof are releasing pitch from the lumber.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,353
    pecmsg said:

    espionage said:

    Hi all,

    I have a hot water heater that has the top of a pipe lined up like this against the tank.



    Is this normal or okay as-is, or should that pipe be more aligned to the hole at the bottom so that the steam goes right up into the pipe?

    Thank you for your help!

    Whats with the Red Burries on top?
    Rodents.

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 2,243
    edited February 2024
    Red berries? Looks like pomegranate.

    @espionage That pipe will need to be secured more then the average installation.
    If snow moved it as I and @yellowdog suspect, this needs to be corrected and installed much more securely then normal or it will happen again.

    I would call a professional.
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,664
    If it is getting some snow shear it needs to be braced and maybe a cricket around the vent above the roof to divert snow.
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    PC7060