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How to relocate the steam vent to the proper place

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foresthillsjd
foresthillsjd Member Posts: 114
edited January 22 in Strictly Steam
I have the tools to tap the spot I need on the radiator, but what’s the best way to plug the hole from the current steam vent location?  Should I get a little plug to fill the existing bushing or should I get a new big plug like the one at the bottom of the radiator?

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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,868
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    Just get a 1/8" pipe plug and screw it in.
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  • 109A_5
    109A_5 Member Posts: 1,386
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    Hello @foresthillsjd,

    Yes I would just put in a small probably 1/8" pipe thread plug,




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  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 7,910
    edited January 22
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    This is a personal preference. If that radiator was in my home, since it looks like the bushing would come out easily, I would get a new full size plug. After the pipe joint compound set for a few weeks, I would clean off the excess with a wire brush at top and bottom plug and paint the plug the same color as the radiator.

    If the other side is in the same condition, I would also brush away any excess pipe joint compound and paint the fitting up to the valve union nut. I might even polish the nut and valve if it is brass than put a coat of clear lacquer on the polished valve to preserve the shine.

    I would not do that for a customer, because I charge too much and would not want them to get angry with the invoice for that service.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

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  • EdTheHeaterMan
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    So in this case, it would be better to have you for a husband than a plumber. 😆

    Is this a proposal?

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    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

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  • foresthillsjd
    foresthillsjd Member Posts: 114
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    So in this case, it would be better to have you for a husband than a plumber. 😆
    Is this a proposal?
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  • dko
    dko Member Posts: 607
    edited January 22
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    You said you already have the tools to tap, but in the case you were trying to find a way to avoid it.. it should already be tapped and plugged on the other side. You could undo the connections and flip the radiator around. And, that varivalve is probably opened way too much.

    If you are in Forest Hills, that radiator is most likely from OCS Industries. They have a secondary vendor they get radiators from that have a black primer like yours and they stink. Normally they should have a blueish primer. Just curious, have you noticed peculiar smells radiating from yours? I went Governale brand only because of it, so wondering if they ever fixed that issue.
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 7,910
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    dko said:

    You said you already have the tools to tap, but in the case you were trying to find a way to avoid it.. it should already be tapped and plugged on the other side. You could undo the connections and flip the radiator around. And, that varivalve is probably opened way too much.

    If you are in Forest Hills, that radiator is most likely from OCS Industries. They have a secondary vendor they get radiators from that have a black primer like yours and they stink. Normally they should have a blueish primer. Just curious, have you noticed peculiar smells radiating from yours? I went Governale brand only because of it, so wondering if they ever fixed that issue.

    I believe that she is takling about tapping the place on the radiator where the steam vent should be. Where the radiator has a small indentation about 1/3 the way up from the bottom. Then what to plug the open hole where she is removing the vent from when she installs the vent in the proper location . But I could be wrong.

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    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • dko
    dko Member Posts: 607
    edited January 22
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    Correct, the radiator should already be tapped with a plug in that exact location on the opposite side. More work than simply tapping, just an option
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  • Intplm.
    Intplm. Member Posts: 1,981
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    @foresthillsjd
    Sometimes some folks like to install a counter sunk plug on the upper portion of a radiator. (2nd pic) Its thought by some, to be a better look rather then the common plug most often used.
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  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 5,707
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    By the way @foresthillsjd how is your system heating? I admit I was quite nervous about your new radiators
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  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 7,910
    edited January 22
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    dko said:

    Correct, the radiator should already be tapped with a plug in that exact location on the opposite side. More work than simply tapping, just an option

    That would mean the radiator was use for Steam before it was salvaged. I'm not sure that this radiator was a salvage yard radiator. This looks like a radiator that was intended for use on hot water or 2 pipe steam and the lower 1/8" Steam Vent hole was never drilled. But I may be wrong


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    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • dko
    dko Member Posts: 607
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    No, I mean it comes like that from factory new. Just one side having the bottom 1/8" port already tapped and plugged. Except for Governale, they have both sides tapped. 

    I sell these everyday

    i started seeing the black primer around 2021 so OP's rad is probably from around then? 

    Anyway thats just assuming my assumptions were correct. Honestly I am just curious to know if the smell from the radiator was ever bad and if it went away. Or it was always ok. I made a huge deal about it with OCS and made them take it all back.
    ethicalpaul
  • foresthillsjd
    foresthillsjd Member Posts: 114
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    dko said:
    You said you already have the tools to tap, but in the case you were trying to find a way to avoid it.. it should already be tapped and plugged on the other side. You could undo the connections and flip the radiator around. And, that varivalve is probably opened way too much. If you are in Forest Hills, that radiator is most likely from OCS Industries. They have a secondary vendor they get radiators from that have a black primer like yours and they stink. Normally they should have a blueish primer. Just curious, have you noticed peculiar smells radiating from yours? I went Governale brand only because of it, so wondering if they ever fixed that issue.
    Yup!  You are right!  I never even thought to look there. I’m gonna flip these radiators around this weekend.