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Accumulated Condensate Water in Radiators

Steve_211
Steve_211 Member Posts: 49
Is it normal for radiators to accumulate condensate water over time? Prior to this heating season, I helped my father-in-law and brother-in-law disconnect their radiators one at a time and lifted the opposite end up, pouring out accumulated condensate water into a pan and reconnected the radiators.
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  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 6,821
    That same amount of water will reappear nearly immediately next time your boiler fires. The effort is futile.

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  • 109A_5
    109A_5 Member Posts: 1,776
    Hello @Steve_211,
    What prompted this behavior ?

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  • Waher
    Waher Member Posts: 305
    You need to shim the feet of the radiators so that they slightly pitch back towards the supply valve to drain in a one pipe steam system.
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  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,329
    Steve_211 said:

    Is it normal for radiators to accumulate condensate water over time? Prior to this heating season, I helped my father-in-law and brother-in-law disconnect their radiators one at a time and lifted the opposite end up, pouring out accumulated condensate water into a pan and reconnected the radiators.

    Yes, because it's impossible for it to all drain out due to the shape of the radiator and it's connections.

    It's also the reason why you'll notice your boiler is slightly low after firing for the first time in the fall. Some of the water in the radiators evaporates during the summer and needs to be replaced.

    The only reason I'd ever do what you did was before moving a radiator so it doesn't dump all over the floor while I'm moving it. Other than that, it doesn't matter and it's normal unless it's excessive due to bad pitch.

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • Steve_211
    Steve_211 Member Posts: 49
    To ChrisJ and all: So, it is normal for radiators to accumulate condensate water, which raises another question. If radiators contain some condensate water, can this be a source for water hammer?

    To ethicalpaul: I'll tell my father-in-law that his practice is futile. I don't know if he'll listen, he's rather stubborn, I guess he thinks it helps in some way.

    To 109A_5: I don't know what prompted his behavior. I don't do it. I did it when I once had to move a radiator.

    To Waher: All the radiators are pitched towards the supply valves.
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 11,047
    because of the air vent the 2 meet each other slowly enough that the collapse of the steam and heating of the water is gradual enough to usually be gentle.
  • 109A_5
    109A_5 Member Posts: 1,776
    Hello @Steve_211,
    I understand draining a radiator of any condensate if it is to be moved, to not make a mess, etc. Simply draining it to just drain it seems pointless to me. The contour of the radiator bottom is usually lower than the lowest pipe that the condensate can drain through, so there will always be some condensate sitting in the bottom.

    I've never had a hammer problem due to condensate in the bottom of my radiators.

    National - U.S. Gas Boiler 45+ Years Old
    Steam 300 SQ. FT. - EDR 347
    One Pipe System