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What would you do??
STEAM DOCTOR
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Went to supplier to pick up new boiler (WM EG-45 steam boiler with tankless coil (for hot water heating zone)). This is what I found.
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Id have the supplier send me another boiler.
WM instruction manuals state a pressure test must be performed. (Im sure you are aware of it). Call the supplier and tell them it won't hold pressure.0 -
realliveplumber said:Id have the supplier send me another boiler. WM instruction manuals state a pressure test must be performed. (Im sure you are aware of it). Call the supplier and tell them it won't hold pressure.
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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ChrisJ said:realliveplumber said:Id have the supplier send me another boiler. WM instruction manuals state a pressure test must be performed. (Im sure you are aware of it). Call the supplier and tell them it won't hold pressure.0
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I'd document it and send it to my rep, get their written ok on it, slap some furnace cement on it, and call it done. Or, let the rep/WM tell me how to swap it out.Contact John "JohnNY" Cataneo, NYC Master Plumber, Lic 1784
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Just got off the phone with WM. They said block has to be taken apart and resealed. Not my circus and not my monkeys. I'll have my supplier send it back and have them take care of it. Boiler has not yet been paid for and certainly won't be paid for under these conditions. They said that besides for the sealing aspect, the gasket is necessary to ensure proper torque.2
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I wonder how the gasket slipped out. It looks like it'd been in there a while.0
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ratio said:I wonder how the gasket slipped out. It looks like it'd been in there a while.0
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Hard to tell some picture, but it looks like part of cast iron may have chipped off.0
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Probably slipped out during assembly.
Used to assemble a lot of HB Smith boilers. They used to send furnace cement to glue the gaskets in (I am talking flue gas sealing not water sealing here) and the furnace cement was horrible to use and didn't work well.
Weil McLain used to send a bottle of "Weil McLain" white glue. I think it was just rebottled Elmers glue. That worked pretty good.
But the best thing to use is the spray on contact cement works like a charm never a problem.
I seriously doubt that gasket "fell out" It gets crushed by the sections when properly assembled.
So I think the gasket fell out and was not noticed. The boiler passed the pressure test and they shipped it.0 -
Would pressure test tell you about the necessary integrity? Don't think this gasket is for the water or steam side. It's for the flu gases. I think.0
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That's not really a gasket. At least the caulk is not. It should dry in place.0
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Send it back. The customer's paying for brand new equipment, not patched. Its not that cold yet. Push for a labor allowance for your wasted time on this. They'll give you 1/3 of what you ask for, but it sends a message. As the installing contractors, it ALL comes back on us if there's an issue down the line. Mad Dog 🐕
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Mad Dog_2 said:Send it back. The customer's paying for brand new equipment, not patched. Its not that cold yet. Push for a labor allowance for your wasted time on this. They'll give you 1/3 of what you ask for, but it sends a message. As the installing contractors, it ALL comes back on us if there's an issue down the line. Mad Dog 🐕1
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I hear ya.. A" Fighting Withdrawal " is just your turn getting "pulled" in the Tug of War.
The right decision and outcome. We expect pictures young man! Mad Dog0 -
You do know you're only 55 right?Mad Dog_2 said:I hear ya.. A" Fighting Withdrawal " is just your turn getting "pulled" in the Tug of War.
The right decision and outcome. We expect pictures young man! Mad DogSingle pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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for flue gasses. very likely could just use something like a taping knife and shove back into slot. I think thats just pressure fit. Get ahold of local Weil mclain rep and send photo and see if that is adequate. My guess is it is.
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tim smith said:for flue gasses. very likely could just use something like a taping knife and shove back into slot. I think thats just pressure fit. Get ahold of local Weil mclain rep and send photo and see if that is adequate. My guess is it is. Tim1
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I've found that every time you try to
Just keep the job moving and cover someone else's mistake or screw up, you get left holding the bag. Good thing you caught it. Every time I don't thoroughly check an order from the supply house or a delivery, I regret it. Mad Dog 🐕5 -
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