Jal

Robert O'Brien

Steamhead

What year was that?

Robert O'Brien

Steamhead said:

What year was that? I’d guess mid to late 60’s

STEVEusaPA

94 out of 100. Where are we now?

Robert O'Brien

STEVEusaPA said:

94 out of 100. Where are we now?

Less than 50 and we’re talking  a market of 700k units

ethicalpaul

Old school paste-up page layout, they don't do it like that anymore!

Were the other 6 homes coal-fired? Or were they fighting against NG with FUD?

Illinoisfarmer

Found it in the Daily News - November 1961. It's also in other papers a week before/after. Please don't yell at me for not blacking out the pricing at Cowboy Al's (some of you probably still have the 'free ball point pen')

WMno57

ethicalpaul said:

Were the other 6 homes coal-fired? Or were they fighting against NG with FUD?

Oil was much cheaper compared to NG and other fuels then. Most medium duty trucks and some semis were still gasoline. Not as much demand for Diesel.
Pre OPEC, and low transportation costs to ship Oil to the East Coast. Also, NG was not as available on the East Coast as it is today. The other six? Maybe three were electric resistance, and three were coal?

ChicagoCooperator

Electric baseboard & Franklin stove?

DanHolohan

Thanks!

Mad Dog_2

Mr Jalonack could be Uncle Fester's Brother...Mad Dog 🐕 

DanHolohan

This is the man who designed the Levittown radiant systems. 

Robert O'Brien

Illinoisfarmer said:

Found it in the Daily News - November 1961. It's also in other papers a week before/after. Please don't yell at me for not blacking out the pricing at Cowboy Al's (some of you probably still have the 'free ball point pen')

I could go for some of that 12.5 cents per foot 1/2" copper!

EBEBRATT-Ed

Iwas going to guess mid 50s to early 60s. The 45 deg detail on the garage doors was the thing back then

Mad Dog_2

I "steal" all the pens I need at my bank!  Those checking fees!!!!  Mad Dog 🐕 

Mad Dog_2

I think I remember reading an article or Book excerpt on Mr J  and The Levitt homes...Is that in the archives?  Mad Dog 🐕 

DanHolohan

More about Jal: https://heatinghelp.com/systems-help-center/levittown-radiant-heating-systems/

Mad Dog_2

Tanks Dano...its been a looooong time since I read that.  Getting coffee ☕ now...first read of the morn!  Mad Dog 🐕 

Mad Dog_2

Thanks for the reprint.  That was almost 9 yrs ago when I first read that. Syracuse, heh? Lake Skaneateles (pronounced Skinny-Atlas) supplies Syracuse with drinking water.  I wonder if he was a Navy man, Dan?
Being that precise, organized and cruising  the building sites like a Drill Instructor....
For those of you that have never seen Levittown Long Island 🏝,  it is a very pretty suburb with lots of trees and and curvy streets with Nice names.  They planned it out very nicely, not like the Grid development they did in the 5 Boros with Cold  numbered streets.  Its easy to get lost in Levittown, but pleasant.  

Dan, would that song happen to be   
"Mrs Brown...you've got a lovely daughter! !!"  ???  Mad Dog 🐕 

Mad Dog_2

I couldn't find a Wikipedia page on him but he certainly deserves one!  How does one go about that?  Mad Dog  🐕 

DanHolohan

You got the song right, Matt!

Mad Dog_2

Cute little diddy!  Huge hit..Peter Noone is STILL performing!  Mad Dog 🐕 

Allislandradiant

As a young lad, I would convert a lot of these Radiant systems to baseboard heat. My father would always remind me to take the tee out on the return side of the boiler. I didn’t realize back then the tee had a bushing in it to restrict the flow and force it back to the supply side of the system. This little bushing was the key to reducing the temperature of the supply side of the Radiant going out to the floor. Such a simple idea was the most important device. Who knew….. keep it simple stupid!!

DanHolohan

That was the Jal Fitting: 3/4 X 1/8. Supply water temp at 180 sent 140 to the floor. An elegant solution. Thanks. 

Mad Dog_2

Yes!  If I never went to that Dead Men Seminar at The Plainview Holiday Inn in 1996, I would not have sat front and center at the Table with R.S. English, went to work for this 3rd Generation Long Island Plumbing & Heating Icon, got to work in many Levitt Homes.  I was a 5 Boros Union  plumber up to that point.  I remember when Uncle Richard bought me An Ultrasound machine with ear phones for pinpointing the radiant slab leaks that we specialized in. It was very accurate and we didn't have to feed A cat !  I love Levitt houses...so cozy, warm, and had character...They all had huge, odd shaped yards.. I guess because the blocks were not sqaure grids, but winding roads.   Mad Dog 🐕 

Mad Dog_2

I always gravitated toward the right teachers..The Rock Stars of our industry... .I feel extremely privileged to study under the Heating Grand Master Holohan and Long 🏝 Islands own "Rich Trethewy."  Richard English.  I have been blessed ...and to call them close personal friends is the icing on the cake 🎂 ☺!   Mad Dog 🐕 

Mad Dog_2

Uncle Richard...please tell the audience about A C.English and their deep involvement with Levittown.  Your Father's Company was very large and dominant in The Town...Mad Dog 🐕 

Mad Dog_2

It's an example of a great American Story of Post WWII guts, enthusiasm, blood, sweat and tears and chasing the American Dream.  Mad Dog 🐕 

crowbar

The year, month and PLACE I was born!

ChrisJ

crowbar said:

The year, month and PLACE I was born!

I didn't see any year or month?