FYI Con Ed's Heat Pump DeCommission Checklist

https://nystatewidecmp.programprocessing.com/Framework/Ny_statewide/ConEdison_Residential_Decommissioning_Checklist_01-23-23.pdf
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I'm sorry but this is considered a comment by virtue of the word COMMENTS just above your "No Comment"Mad Dog_2 said:No comment.....Mad Dog
Edward F Young. Retired HVAC ContractorSpecialized in Residential Oil Burner and Hydronics0 -
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Ed-the-heater-Comment-Police-man...... It's my "No comment"- Comment aka statement! Kabeesh? Ha ha ha Mad Dog1
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and after reading all the requirements on the checklist I cant help but see that you need to cap off the ductwork. What if you are going to replace the fossil fuel system with heat pump that needs ductwork? How are you supposed to get the heated air in those ducts?
What if you are planning to use the oversized radiators for a air to water or water to water heat pump to heat the home? How are you supposed to connect the heated water side of the heat pump to the radiators after you cap them off. I just don't get it, Maybe you should just cap off the entire building to the ground so you can get a few dollars in an incentive to decommission "fossil fuel using buildings" in order to go to more efficient electrical powered heat pumps.
But will there be enough left for the cars?
Edward F Young. Retired HVAC ContractorSpecialized in Residential Oil Burner and Hydronics2 -
Lets all thank @D107 for beginning this informative and pointed Discussion.. Or should I rephrase to insane and pointless Discussion
Either way, Thanks !Edward F Young. Retired HVAC ContractorSpecialized in Residential Oil Burner and Hydronics0 -
Jamie Hall said:Right. And when, on some chilly morning at oh dark hundred, the nice new heat pump can't get the house warm enough, who is on the hook? You, dear contractor. Remember that.
Or the other common problem, poor installation, leaky flare fittings. Now I'm facing a repair that takes several hours.
If someone calls me on a night or weekend and they have a cast iron oil or gas fired boiler? No problem. I'm confident that I fix the problem in no time with universal replacement parts that are stocked on my van.
I'm planning on installing an inverter heat pump at my house. But the only way my boiler is being removed is over my dead body!3 -
. Be careful what you wish for...SuperTech said:I'm planning on installing an inverter heat pump at my house. But the only way my boiler is being removed is over my dead body!
If you live in Chicago or North Jersey, That can be arranged! We are still looking for Jimmy Hoffa
Edward F Young. Retired HVAC ContractorSpecialized in Residential Oil Burner and Hydronics2 -
Jimmy Hoffa is in the End Zone of Giant Stadium. Tony Pro put him there. Mad Dog1
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What’s the incentive amount available if you remove the existing system?0
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Remove all gas or propane piping, have the homeowner arrange removal of meter riser or propane tanks. I guess no Gas Stoves, fireplaces, Firepits, Barbecues etc. I think my steak is going to cook to slowly on a heat pump barbecue.
My previous home, self constructed in 1980 had and still has a water source heat pump. Home had 2X6 exterior walls and r38 in the roof, it was comfortable but I feel my new home (built in 1953) with old style recessed hot water convectors and badly settled rock wool insulation is more comfortable.
The local utility is having trouble meeting peak demand with all the new electric vehicles, I can only imagine all heat pumps and resistance backup1 -
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EdTheHeaterMan said:
and after reading all the requirements on the checklist I cant help but see that you need to cap off the ductwork. What if you are going to replace the fossil fuel system with heat pump that needs ductwork? How are you supposed to get the heated air in those ducts?
What if you are planning to use the oversized radiators for a air to water or water to water heat pump to heat the home? How are you supposed to connect the heated water side of the heat pump to the radiators after you cap them off. I just don't get it, Maybe you should just cap off the entire building to the ground so you can get a few dollars in an incentive to decommission "fossil fuel using buildings" in order to go to more efficient electrical powered heat pumps.
But will there be enough left for the cars?
If only it was western coal from Wyoming or Montana, I would take 4 cars/500 tons off thier hands.
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