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Furnace tube Swirl Vanes for a 2005 Trane gas-pak
CWillC
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in Gas Heating
These are first engineering questions, and then parts questions.
I have a 2005 Trane YCX042G1 MOAC gas-pak. In the process of removing and cleaning the flame sensor (FS), I noticed that the burner tube at the FS was missing the Helical Swirl Vane (that is the best I can do at naming it as I find no reference to this part in the IOMs).
(See attached image)
It appears to be of a fragile, fibrous ceramic material, white, about 1.625" (4.1cm) W x 0.185" (0.5cm) thick x perhaps 16" (40cm) long, and would be secured to the outside wall of the HX with a metal clip; over its length, it twists approx 2.5 times. I found the missing swirl vane at the end of the low burner tube, in pieces. I inspected the other 3 burner tubes and determined that one was broken in half, and the other two appear to be intact. I have attempted to find this at 2 different local parts houses that carry Trane products, but they didn't carry it, nor recognize it, so, I have these questions:
Some ENGINEERING:
a. what kind of performance do the swirl vanes provide, or inversely, does their absence reduce the performance by (X%)?_____
b. is the function of either tube with corresponding FS or igniter affected by the absence of the swirl vane? _____
for PARTS:
c. can you refer me to a parts house that specifically stocks these? ______
d. if no one stocks these ( because? ____ Due to obsolescence?_____), and then subject to the answers to a. and b. above, can you refer me to the mfr that made these originally for you?_____
I have a 2005 Trane YCX042G1 MOAC gas-pak. In the process of removing and cleaning the flame sensor (FS), I noticed that the burner tube at the FS was missing the Helical Swirl Vane (that is the best I can do at naming it as I find no reference to this part in the IOMs).
(See attached image)
It appears to be of a fragile, fibrous ceramic material, white, about 1.625" (4.1cm) W x 0.185" (0.5cm) thick x perhaps 16" (40cm) long, and would be secured to the outside wall of the HX with a metal clip; over its length, it twists approx 2.5 times. I found the missing swirl vane at the end of the low burner tube, in pieces. I inspected the other 3 burner tubes and determined that one was broken in half, and the other two appear to be intact. I have attempted to find this at 2 different local parts houses that carry Trane products, but they didn't carry it, nor recognize it, so, I have these questions:
Some ENGINEERING:
a. what kind of performance do the swirl vanes provide, or inversely, does their absence reduce the performance by (X%)?_____
b. is the function of either tube with corresponding FS or igniter affected by the absence of the swirl vane? _____
for PARTS:
c. can you refer me to a parts house that specifically stocks these? ______
d. if no one stocks these ( because? ____ Due to obsolescence?_____), and then subject to the answers to a. and b. above, can you refer me to the mfr that made these originally for you?_____
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I still have access to American Standard and Trane dealer website. I can look up parts by serial number. Can you tell me your serial number?
Never mind. GGross found it quicker
Look in the phone book (LOL) for a Trane or American Standard dealer. That part will need to be ordered from the dealer's distributer.Edward Young Retired
After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?
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You guys are great, thanks a bunch.0
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In answer to your engineering question -- the purpose of the "turbulator" (got to love those names) is, as the name implies, to introduce turbulence into the gas/air mixture, and hence improve mixing. This provides much better, more even combustion. How much difference do they make? Without making measurements, hard to say -- but it may be significant. It will surely alter the combustion measurements, assuming you are setting up with instrumentation.Br. Jamie, osb
Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England0
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