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Why does PSEG not use a constant therm calculation?
Jersey2
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Therms should be a constant value equal to the CCF times a constant variable, right? An example is:
Usage of 9 on the meter, then CCF is 9 * 1.012 or 9.18, times 1.033 is 9.409.
PSEG does use 1.012 for the CCF as a constant month to month, but PSEG changes the 1.033 for the therms every month. Why? I use a spread sheet to anticipate my gas bill and it is always off because of the value to multiply by the CCF. I notice that it goes down each month thus far:
May- 1.036
June- 1.035
July- 1.033
Aug- 1.031
Usage of 9 on the meter, then CCF is 9 * 1.012 or 9.18, times 1.033 is 9.409.
PSEG does use 1.012 for the CCF as a constant month to month, but PSEG changes the 1.033 for the therms every month. Why? I use a spread sheet to anticipate my gas bill and it is always off because of the value to multiply by the CCF. I notice that it goes down each month thus far:
May- 1.036
June- 1.035
July- 1.033
Aug- 1.031
I'm not a plumber or hvac man and my thoughts in comments are purely for conversation.
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The therm value will change with the chemical makeup of the fuel. A therm is 100,000 BTU, and actually has only a convenient relationship to volume. A CCF is 100 cubic feet of gas -- in fact, any gas. Now methane, the primary constituent of natural gas, has a gross heating value of 1,011 BTU per cubic foot of gas at standard temperature and pressure. Therefore, a CCF actually has 101,100 BTU gross heating value. Propane and ethane, which are commonly also present in "natural" gas -- propane often being actually added -- have much higher gross heating values, so if they are present even in trace amounts, as they usually are, the therms per CCF will change.Br. Jamie, osb
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Thanks guys, that makes sense. And it is very interesting.I'm not a plumber or hvac man and my thoughts in comments are purely for conversation.0
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You will never get things exact.
Look at oil. It's about 140,000 but/gallon.
But what is a gallon?
Temperature affects the volume of a gallon. Measure a gallon at 60 deg then heat it to 100 deg and the volume goes up because of expansion.
Interestingly cold oil will flow more gallons through a nozzle at a constant pressure than warmer oil with the same nozzle and pressure.
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