Rotary wirebrush atomizer -- good alternative burner for viscous oil?

cowdog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n18lcAWbTGA

Heating oil is predicted to be unaffordable this winter.

Alternatives, such as waste oil, #6 fuel oil, biomass pyrolysis oil and coal water slurry, have high viscosity. Except coal water slurry, viscosity can be reduced by pre-heating.

An affordable burner for these affordable fuels is greatly needed.

"handheld rotary tools" is a power tool with variable speed up to 35000rpm from a coreless motor, maximum driving power around 150w.

Rotary cup atomizer, also called rotary bell, is a proven oil burner technology with sophisticated internal structure that is better made with a 3D printer. Without a metal sintering 3D printer, how to make

The youtube video demonstrates using a wirebrush wheel as alternative to cup to atomize water.

I guess this could be improved:

1. The air blower output and rotary cup could be enclosed in a round tube to increase air speed.
   
2. There could be an oil return hole and return line to collect oil that has not been atomized
   

EdTheHeaterMan

That is perfect. Let's all go into our garage and find some old parts that are lying around that might be able to burn free fuel (like waste oil that auto oil change shops need to pay to dispose of) and will probably cause a major fire or carbon monoxide poisoning. You know if you use the fuel without venting it into a chimney, it will be more efficient. Most of the efficiency loss from burning oil is the heat wasted that goes up the chimney. Aladdin and Kero-sun were popular in the 1970s and 80s for this type heater.

Ask any firefighter about heating systems and fire deaths

This is an interesting video in how liquids will atomize with a rotary burner. BUT should have a disclaimer
DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME !

HVACNUT

But can it core a apple?

Steamhead

HVACNUT said:

But can it core an apple?

"Can it core a apple"?

ChrisJ

Ok calm down chef of the future.

retiredguy

Wow,that looks like an accident or explosion is coming soon to a place in your back yard. Atomized oil of any grade is extremely volatile and explosive. I hope you do your home work. Have you looked at an old S T Johnson or Iron Fireman rotary burner. The older S T Johnson's will fire almost any flammable liquid that can be pushed through a piece of tubing into a "spinning cup"and at a very low pressure. They do have their limitations. Try to find one and reverse engineer it or use it as it is. There were tons of them sold to schools in western Pa.

cowdog

retiredguy said:

Have you looked at an old S T Johnson or Iron Fireman rotary burner. The older S T Johnson's will fire almost any flammable liquid that can be pushed through a piece of tubing into a "spinning cup"and at a very low pressure. They do have their limitations. Try to find one and reverse engineer it or use it as it is. There were tons of them sold to schools in western Pa.

Where can I buy or borrow one for studying? Search on eBay didn't find any

leonz

That video reminds me of an oil well drilling platforms gas discharge except that you cannot see the gas until the fellow using the flare gun shoots the flare into the high pressure methane gas flowing out of the bypass tube inside the steel girders that support the gas pipe and it explodes and then continues burning.

All that wasted raw methane gas was lost for no good reason.

retiredguy

You could call the company I used to work for and ask them. Call CS&E Pittsburgh, Pa. and ask to speak to Tim Fugh 412-821-8900. If they can't help then I do not know who to call.

EBEBRATT-Ed

Burning #6 oil or anything similar in a house is suicide.

No insurance company or any regulatory agency would cover any loss.

This ground has already been plowed.

Give it up.

ratio

EBEBRATT-Ed said:

Burning #6 oil or anything similar in a house is suicide.

No insurance company or any regulatory agency would cover any loss.

This ground has already been plowed.

Give it up.

Never give up! Where would we be if Rube Goldberg gave up just because someone said it couldn't be done!

EdTheHeaterMan

I know of a guy that has a Timkin Boiler still in the crate sitting is a warehouse. His father was a Timkin boiler dealer in the 1950s

ChrisJ

EBEBRATT-Ed said:

Burning #6 oil or anything similar in a house is suicide. No insurance company or any regulatory agency would cover any loss. This ground has already been plowed. Give it up.

I thought the op said this was for some industrial equipment in a foreign country?

EBEBRATT-Ed

Rotary burners for heavy oil where the standard in this country from the 20s to the late 60s. They were mostly outlawed for air pollution reasons. There is only one company in the US that still makes rotary's and that is Preferred Utilities, Danbury, CT. They are still used in Europe I think.

cowdog

EBEBRATT-Ed said:

Burning #6 oil or anything similar in a house is suicide.

No insurance company or any regulatory agency would cover any loss.

This ground has already been plowed.

Give it up.

Insurance deal with safety, what are the safety risks of #6 fuel oil?
What if we can put in a redneck diesel particulate filter to filter out the soot? It's fixed installation so the filter can be much larger than a truck DPF and have less air resistance.