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Internal siphon

johnjohn89
johnjohn89 Member Posts: 112
in Strictly Steam

I took photo from steam boiler! What does this internal siphon do? What is name of this gauge? Sensing internal boiler pressure? Why no sensing any pressure when boiler off mode? I am apprentice need to learn more about boiler!

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  • pedmec
    pedmec Member Posts: 1,009
    protects the gauge. same as pigtail, which real name is a siphon tube. its internal to the gauge
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,214
    Yes As @pedmec pointed out you can install it on a steam boiler without a separate pigtail and the gauge will still be protected from steam
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 6,256
    ...for a few hours anyway!

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  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,205
    Curious if anyone has taken apart one of these internal siphon gauges. I'm curious what's inside.
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  • Hap_Hazzard
    Hap_Hazzard Member Posts: 2,846
    It reads zero when the boiler is off because there is no pressure (relative to atrmosphere) in the boiler when it isn't steaming. While the boiler is producing steam, there will be only enough pressure to move the steam out of the boiler, until all the vents close. The the pressure may then increase to a point determined by the rate of vaporization in the boiler and the rate of condensation in the radiators. If the system is well balanced it should only be two to eight ounces in a typical one-pipe residential system, so the 30 PSI range on these gaugeshas nothing to do with the operating rage of the system. It is required to be two times the opening pressure of the relief valve, which is 15 PSI.
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  • johnjohn89
    johnjohn89 Member Posts: 112
    Hap_Hazzard said:
    It reads zero when the boiler is off because there is no pressure (relative to atrmosphere) in the boiler when it isn't steaming. While the boiler is producing steam, there will be only enough pressure to move the steam out of the boiler, until all the vents close. The the pressure may then increase to a point determined by the rate of vaporization in the boiler and the rate of condensation in the radiators. If the system is well balanced it should only be two to eight ounces in a typical one-pipe residential system, so the 30 PSI range on these gaugeshas nothing to do with the operating rage of the system. It is required to be two times the opening pressure of the relief valve, which is 15 PSI.
    Great! Thank u very much!
  • johnjohn89
    johnjohn89 Member Posts: 112
    pedmec said:
    protects the gauge. same as pigtail, which real name is a siphon tube. its internal to the gauge
    Thank u so much 

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