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Carlin ez gas conversion on bock how water heater

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Uri
Uri Member Posts: 11
edited April 2022 in THE MAIN WALL
Has anyone had an issue using this system on a bock hot water heater one of the supply houses will not sell me the part because they claim they have had issues using these on hot water heaters any help is much appreciated

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  • Jon_blaney
    Jon_blaney Member Posts: 321
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    Have you checked with BOCH tech support about this application?
  • Jon_blaney
    Jon_blaney Member Posts: 321
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    Look like you have to order it directly from BOCK per chart at SUPPLYHOUSE.COM.
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 9,840
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    Are you a tech or do you have a tech to set this up? It isn't just a bolt it on and hook it up sort of affair.
  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 6,505
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    Carlin doesn't list a set up for the 51 EC
    How old? If it's too old, you might just want to switch it to a regular gas water heater, but proper set up and testing is a must, like @mattmia2 stated.

    There was an error rendering this rich post.

  • Uri
    Uri Member Posts: 11
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    The question is if anybody knows of a known issue selling these up on water heater
  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 5,870
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    Uri said:
    The question is if anybody knows of a known issue selling these up on water heater
    I've never been asked to do such a thing. Now that I think about it, in my 38 years out there, I don't think I've ever laid eyes on a residential water heater with a gas power burner. And my long term memory is good. It's the frontal lobe that's a little toasted.
    I'm assuming the space heat is a furnace, otherwise an indirect would be the obvious route. 
    Can I ask why you would invest in a power burner over an atmospheric gas water heater? It seems against the norm. Most, if they're converting, it's an atmospheric or an on demand. 

  • Uri
    Uri Member Posts: 11
    edited April 2022
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    Hi this is a bock 51 Ec Oil fired  150k btu we have 2 of them we are converting to gas t




  • Uri
    Uri Member Posts: 11
    edited April 2022
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    HVACNUT said:
    Uri said:
    The question is if anybody knows of a known issue selling these up on water heater
    I've never been asked to do such a thing. Now that I think about it, in my 38 years out there, I don't think I've ever laid eyes on a residential water heater with a gas power burner. And my long term memory is good. It's the frontal lobe that's a little toasted.
    I'm assuming the space heat is a furnace, otherwise an indirect would be the obvious route. 
    Can I ask why you would invest in a power burner over an atmospheric gas water heater? It seems against the norm. Most, if they're converting, it's an atmospheric or an on demand. 

    Hi this is a bock 51 Ec Oil fired  150k btu we have 2 of them we are converting to gas to place the equivalent in a new gas water heater would cost us somewhere in the neighborhood of a new car 
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,944
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    @Uri , we do NOT discuss pricing on this forum.
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  • Tim McElwain
    Tim McElwain Member Posts: 4,628
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    As someone who has installed over 3,500 Gas Conversion burners I have done what you are looking to do with permission from the manufacturers both the Conversion Burner company and the water heater manufacturer. If you could post a picture of the unit you are looking to convert it would be helpful.
    HVACNUTrick in Alaska
  • Uri
    Uri Member Posts: 11
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    As someone who has installed over 3,500 Gas Conversion burners I have done what you are looking to do with permission from the manufacturers both the Conversion Burner company and the water heater manufacturer. If you could post a picture of the unit you are looking to convert it would be helpful.

  • Uri
    Uri Member Posts: 11
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    Uri said:
    As someone who has installed over 3,500 Gas Conversion burners I have done what you are looking to do with permission from the manufacturers both the Conversion Burner company and the water heater manufacturer. If you could post a picture of the unit you are looking to convert it would be helpful.

    Thanks for your time!
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,750
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    @Uri

    A phone call to Carlin or Bock would solve the issue
  • Uri
    Uri Member Posts: 11
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    @Uri A phone call to Carlin or Bock would solve the issue
    Bock says they are compatible however I would like to verify if anyone has personally done this successfully or has had issues as this is not the most common use of the conversion kit 
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,750
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    If Bock is Ok with it, then you're ok.

    I would try to obtain from Bock or Carlin the burner specs and orifice size used etc.
  • HVACNUT
    HVACNUT Member Posts: 5,870
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    Like @Tim McElwain wrote, getting the ok from both Bock and Carlin is key. I don't see that model Bock listed in Carlin's OEM spec guide but I'm sure they can help with orifice drill size and initial settings. Final adjustments must be done with a combustion analysis. 


    Uri
  • Uri
    Uri Member Posts: 11
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    HVACNUT said:
    Like @Tim McElwain wrote, getting the ok from both Bock and Carlin is key. I don't see that model Bock listed in Carlin's OEM spec guide but I'm sure they can help with orifice drill size and initial settings. Final adjustments must be done with a combustion analysis. 


    bock sells a carlin conversion kit specifically for this  model (51ec) I can post a screenshot with it but it’s hard to understand how they cannot be okay with it if they are the one selling it
  • Uri
    Uri Member Posts: 11
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    I fail  To see how they can sell this product and not be OK with it
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,750
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    @Uri

    No one knows everything. This is probably not the most common install. If Bock advertises it it must be ok as long as it is set up right.
  • Uri
    Uri Member Posts: 11
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    @Uri No one knows everything. This is probably not the most common install. If Bock advertises it it must be ok as long as it is set up right.
    Appreciate the feedback hopeful there is someone here that may have done this kind of conversion 
  • Jon_blaney
    Jon_blaney Member Posts: 321
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    I have been on the Bock site off and on since I got mine 20 years ago. They once sold those tanks with a choice of oil or gas. If you poke around long enough you will fine references to tanks with the oil or gas burner. If you follow the links, the gas units are not there. Looks to me like there have gone in a different direction. Like a lot of things, no old timers around to remember that it was a regular thing.
  • Uri
    Uri Member Posts: 11
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    I have been on the Bock site off and on since I got mine 20 years ago. They once sold those tanks with a choice of oil or gas. If you poke around long enough you will fine references to tanks with the oil or gas burner. If you follow the links, the gas units are not there. Looks to me like there have gone in a different direction. Like a lot of things, no old timers around to remember that it was a regular thing.