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  • MikeL_2
    MikeL_2 Member Posts: 514
    That's a vacuum hose, PC. I'm dead set against toxins.......
    PC7060
  • reggi
    reggi Member Posts: 523
    @Larry Weingarten 
    That was a awesome gesture... I'll bet you never thought with that first piece (s) tucked in your luggage that it would become a passion and how you'd want to share it with the world..  for the present and generations forward.. kudos ! 
    Larry Weingarten said:
    Hi @reggi , That was a special occasion. 
    One way to get familiar something you know nothing about is to ask a really smart person a really stupid question
  • Erin Holohan Haskell
    Erin Holohan Haskell Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 2,354

    Erin? Are you paying attention here? LOL

    I sure am! And I can't wait for my next visit. :D

    And here are some photos of the @Larry Weingarten Water Heater Collection at The General Society of Mechanics and Tradesmen (taken at our 2019 gathering there). Beautiful craftsmanship! And thank you for collecting and sharing these with us and future generations, Larry.

    President
    HeatingHelp.com

    Larry WeingartenSTEVEusaPAreggi
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,601
    That was a great day! Thanks, Erin.
    Retired and loving it.
    MikeL_2Erin Holohan Haskell
  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,600
    edited March 2022
    Hi @reggi , I forgot I ever told the story of how the first water heater came home with me as carry on luggage. I would not let it out of my sight. You're a very good researcher! One can never know the interesting places where life is gonna take you. o:)

    Yours, Larry
    ps. I finally saw the link Dan posted telling the story. Things make better sense now. :D
    reggi
  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,600
    @Erin Holohan Haskell and @DanHolohan , I hope we get to do it again! That was a wonderful day! I got to put faces to many of the names here and spend time with my tribe. A fantabulous day! B)

    Yours, Larry
    Erin Holohan Haskellrick in Alaskamattmia2
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,601
    If you'd like to visit the museum, here's the info:
    https://generalsociety.org/?p=4662
    Retired and loving it.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,601
    It sure was a great day. So good to see everyone in person. Thanks.
    Retired and loving it.
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,279


    This was taken at a hotel somewhere on the way down to Mississippi.

    Apparently some code/fire regs require a wrench immediately available to shut down the gas meter.

    Although the ball valve on the hi pressure coming out of the ground would take care of the shut down.
    I don't think the adjustable wrench would work on that 1/4 turn valve.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,601
    Good one! Thanks. 
    Retired and loving it.
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 10,955
    @Larry Weingarten which water heater was the first?

    Are there writeups about each? I'm sure you know more about them than anyone else does.

    That sign about selling hot water made me think about how my grandfather sad their first house which they bought around wwii and was probably built in the 30's had a coal fired water heater and how people didn't expect running hot water until mid century or so.
  • realliveplumber
    realliveplumber Member Posts: 354
    JUGHNE said:



    This was taken at a hotel somewhere on the way down to Mississippi.

    Apparently some code/fire regs require a wrench immediately available to shut down the gas meter.

    Although the ball valve on the hi pressure coming out of the ground would take care of the shut down.
    I don't think the adjustable wrench would work on that 1/4 turn valve.

    Is that bypass piping behind the meter?
    CLamb
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 10,955
    Commercial meter that only measures part of the flow and gets multiplied by a correction factor.
    MikeL_2realliveplumber
  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,446
    edited March 2022
    Is that bypass piping behind the meter?

    I’ve seen the bypass piping a few times on commercial gas hookups  in Virginia with bypass valve closed with gas co seal on it.  I assume it’s purpose is to allow maintenance of meter by utility company without taking down the service. 
    JUGHNErealliveplumber
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,279
    That gas meter bypass if fairly common on larger installations.
    They can change out the meter without shut down, which should mean doing a survey of appliances and possibly lighting pilots.
    RTU's would be a pain to check out.

    This way they never have to enter the building.
    Less liability for gas co.

    Have seen this done for large water meters also.

    Some electric meters have a by-pass switch to keep the power on when meter is removed. The by pass lever would then stick out of the front of the mtr socket.
    This would prevent the cover being put back on.
    PC7060realliveplumber
  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,600
    So, just to get things back on track and respond to Dan's original question... Here's what I did with a 1.5" floor flange. When the spring return mechanism on my little log splitter broke, the floor flange was the perfect fix. B)

    Yours, Larry
    ayetchvacker
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,601
    Brilliant! Thanks, Larry.
    Retired and loving it.
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,501
    @mattmia2

    If you look close I think there is another gas cock partially hidden by the meter. Some codes require that gas valves have a handle attached to the valve. Gas has to go through either the meter or the bypass not both at the same time
    mattmia2
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,601
    Thanks, HR. I've been waiting for you. ;-)
    Retired and loving it.
    mattmia2Erin Holohan Haskellreggi
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 9,404
    edited March 2022
    My favorite from HR


    Here is my contribution: Wanted to post last week but took this long to find the photos:
    In the last 2 years of working I replaced a boiler and included new thermostats for each of the 4 zones. I could not find the thermostat that controlled the living/dining/kitchen zone. The 70+year old homeowner showed me this contraption his father built in the 1960s

    I can't imagine why I didn't missed this obvious thermostat cover. LOL
    I opened the front door to find this conglomeration of clock, servo, spring, cam switches, dial adaptor and T87F thermostat.

    A close look finds a timer that operates the thermostat by design. This must have been some kit from an add in Popular Science or Popular Mechanics magazine. the clock is a "Thermotimer" that operates a servo motor with a spring affixed to the motor shaft. (see orang arrow) This spring acts as a worm gear to rotate the gear that then moves the thermostat setting dial via the black attachment affixed to the dial.


    What we will invent to get the job done, even though Honeywell already had a cost effective Chronotherm on the market for years.


    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    rick in Alaskamattmia2ratioayetchvacker
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,601
    Ed! Gosh.
    Retired and loving it.
    mattmia2
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 10,955
    Because switching between 2 thermostats with the timer contacts would have been too simple?
  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,600
    That spark plug circulator must use “the force”! B) Nice

    Yours, Larry

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 10,955
    Are spark plugs pipe thread?
  • realliveplumber
    realliveplumber Member Posts: 354
    mattmia2 said:

    Are spark plugs pipe thread?

    Typically 14mm x 1.25
  • Pumpguy
    Pumpguy Member Posts: 699
    hot_rod said:

    Thanks, HR. I've been waiting for you. ;-)

    A few more.

    I built the Taco trike for one of Siggys grandkids. Couldn't pass the NY state emissions, however :)
    Of course not, no carburetor. EFI maybe?
    Dennis Pataki. Former Service Manager and Heating Pump Product Manager for Nash Engineering Company. Phone: 1-888 853 9963
    Website: www.nashjenningspumps.com

    The first step in solving any problem is TO IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM.
  • ScottSecor
    ScottSecor Member Posts: 902
    @hot_rod I've heard stories about your "artwork" for many years, nice to finally get to see them. You really are a talented person. I can only imagine what your current laboratory (shop) looks like these days.
    mattmia2
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,279


    These are my gloves laying on top of a rather frosted up 7/8" OD suction line.
    The line when clear would fit inside the thumb of the glove.
    This is inside of an old walk in freezer with wrapped meat in locker storage running at about -5 degrees.

    The door leaks so much air into the box that this is a common issue.
    This line had not been cleared in a few years.

    Several days of quick visits were needed to defrost 2 evap coils and piping and still keep the box frozen.

    4 hours at a visit makes you understand radiant cooling.
    CLambayetchvacker