District systems in NY cities

hot_rod

more attention to district systems, geo powered perhaps.

This would be an ideal time to do all them infrastructure upgrades when roads are cut open, upgrade the power grid, for example.


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Hot_water_fan

@hot_rod Love this idea! The efficiencies from simultaneous heating and cooling plus the easy integration of ice storage and cheap low temperature solar thermal are compelling. The hard part is paying for 2x the distribution systems vs. electricity.

Jamie Hall

Funny thing about it is that at one time there were more, more widespread, district heating systems. Various problems led to them being abandoned or discontinued.

There were widespread light rail mass transit lines, too, in many towns never mind cities. And heavy rail passenger services were widespread...

"When will they ever learn?" (apologies to Pete Seeger there...)

hot_rod

Hot_water_fan said:

@hot_rod Love this idea! The efficiencies from simultaneous heating and cooling plus the easy integration of ice storage and cheap low temperature solar thermal are compelling. The hard part is paying for 2x the distribution systems vs. electricity.

If only the taxpayers could fund an infrastructure bill for this type of project:) One trench, multiple utilities, you get metered and pay for what you use.
Not unlike the district steam systems that have been in some cities for generations. Or the waste burner in downtown Minneapolis that feeds around the city.

DanHolohan

Love to see this happen. 

dopey27177

District heating in any city not only N,Y, needs qualified people to maintain and repair the systems, additionally it also needs the people to maintain the systems within the building, not like the New York City Housing Authority.

See what happens when staff does not do the needed maintenance and repair.