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Steam condensation tank

Snowmelt
Snowmelt Member Posts: 1,425
Can I just take the float switch off the assemble and just use the switch, re visit at a bother date…..

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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,470
    Don't know what your after but the switch and the float are an assembly. You need both of them to make it work
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,274
    Are you trying to fill the tank with an electric solenoid valve when the float drops or start the pump when the float is up?
  • Snowmelt
    Snowmelt Member Posts: 1,425
    Ed , that’s what I just bought on Friday, That’s the same thing that’s in the unit , I was able to take the switch off. ( looks like a well pressure switch but it’s a float switch. Can I take the float off the switch and since the float is still in the steal. Case just replace the switch?
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 24,842
    Two questions. If you take the float off the switch, what is going to activate the switch? Something is going to have to trip the contacts over! Or are you swapping the new switch for an old one? In which case, you probably can do it -- if, as I say, you figure out how to activate it.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • Pumpguy
    Pumpguy Member Posts: 693
    Square D uses this same basic switch mechanism for several different applications. My well pump has one activated by a pressure diaphragm.

    Using the float, rod, pivot bushing, and linkage shown, this switch is used to either start and stop a condensate pump, trigger the opening and closing of a solenoid valve to regulate a liquid level, sound or trigger an alarm, or whatever is needed as a result of a change in liquid level.

    The attached file shows how this switch can be modified for different applications.
    Dennis Pataki. Former Service Manager and Heating Pump Product Manager for Nash Engineering Company. Phone: 1-888 853 9963
    Website: www.nashjenningspumps.com

    The first step in solving any problem is TO IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM.
  • Snowmelt
    Snowmelt Member Posts: 1,425
    I’ll let you guys know after I do it lol
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,470
    @Snowmelt

    If your question is" can i change only the switch and use the old float" yes you should be able to do that
  • Snowmelt
    Snowmelt Member Posts: 1,425
    Well, no one had the switch, I backed the bushing out, I can’t get there till Thursday luckily they don’t really need that room for next couple days.
    I do have a follow up question in the boiler room it seems like when the steam goes out it’s just a lot of piping and condensation in the pipes……….. how can I make the boiler hold more volume of water, Like a steal tank thats on the return….
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 24,842
    If you need more water volume, @Snowmelt , the best (really only satisfactory!) approach is a steel tank which is fed by the wet return and which, in turn, feeds the boiler. But here's the trick: it isn't vented, but has a connection to the boiler header above the water line in the tank. Further, the tank elevation is set so that the boiler water line is, roughly, half to two thirds of the way up the tank wall. Usually what one is interested in is minimizing the water level change in the boiler as steam is created and goes out in the system, and that arrangement does exactly that. More water -- potentially much more water -- is available to the boiler with a small change in water level.

    Note that I am thinking here of a closed loop system. If you are dealing with a open loop system -- the steam is exhausted elsewhere and not returned -- you have a very different kind of problem.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,274
    Often the problem of slow returning condensate water is solved by using a feeder pump.
    It looks like that float fill switch came out of a feeder pump, is that correct?

    Does the feeder pump tank fill with fresh water by the flow switch calling for fill?

    Does the boiler have a feeder switch, such as a M&M 150, that tells the pump to send water into the boiler?

    Can you show us the tank and boiler?