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Help with Info on this Ancient Bryant NoToil

Nermal
Nermal Member Posts: 2
edited May 2021 in Gas Heating
Hi all. I'm wondering if there are any heating archeologists out there who can help me with any information on this Bryant NoToil. I've done the Google/internet searching to the maximum (that's how I found this site), and came up with nothing. I'm definitely replacing it in the near future, but am interested in know the history of this beast.

Let me know if I'm barking up the wrong tree and I will take my wares elsewhere! Thanks in advance!


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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 15,654
    1930s-1940s? Probably not original to the house, judging by the flange unions............
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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 6,655
    Set up as gravity hot water. Looks like someone has retrofitted a modern gas valve. Looks like it doesn't have a lwco or aquastat to shut it down if it runs dry or otherwise stops circulating properly.
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  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 10,044
    Maybe an aquastat under the door?
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  • Tim McElwain
    Tim McElwain Member Posts: 4,524
    This was originally a Gas Actuated system which has been converted at some time over to a standing pilot Honeywell gas valve. Are there any other controls you could send as a picture so we can identify its complete operation?
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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 6,655
    Is a "gas actuated" system the type of pilot safety where the pilot is always on, the thermopile is heated by the pilot and if the pilot goes out the thermopile doesn't create any power to open the main burner so the main burner won't open if pilot is not lit?
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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 12,654
    I think that is original to the house.

    There has to be a temp control somewhere.

    The expansion tank is probably be in the attic

    IT'S JUNK,

    NO, IT'S NOT IF IT WAS IT WOULDN'T HAVE LASTED THIS LONG.
    Late 1930s or 1940s would be my guess
    mattmia2NermalAlan (California Radiant) Forbes
  • Nermal
    Nermal Member Posts: 2

    This was originally a Gas Actuated system which has been converted at some time over to a standing pilot Honeywell gas valve. Are there any other controls you could send as a picture so we can identify its complete operation?

    I'll have more access to it once I close on the house and post additional info and photos of controls. I do have a photo of a Honeywell "Electric Janitor" Type M 26 that's still bolted to the wall. I assumed both it and the boiler are original to the house, built circa 1930.
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 12,654
    That was modern equipment for 1930
  • Tim McElwain
    Tim McElwain Member Posts: 4,524
    Mattmia 2 Here is an example of Gas Actuated. It is not Powerpile that came many years later,
    mattmia2
  • Ryan1234
    Ryan1234 Member Posts: 2
    I resurrect old boilers from the grave all the time. If it’s not cracked or kettling, burning clean, safety’s work and drafting why get rid of it? 
    mattmia2
  • Lance
    Lance Member Posts: 227
    I was confused No Toil I believe it is read as "Not Oil". What I like best is if it has a MV power pile it works without electricity! Gravity flow. Silent warm heat. Ahhh :)
    mattmia2PC7060
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 6,655
    Just get someone that understands them to clean and adjust it and make sure there is some sort of high limit or lwco on it.
  • bburd
    bburd Member Posts: 486
    “NoToil” Probably referred to the fact that the gas boiler required no stoking or ash removal vs. the coal boiler it probably replaced.

    Bburd
    JUGHNEmattmia2