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Only half of my Radiator heats up

mcp1mcp1 Member Posts: 48
I recently had one of my old cast iron steam radiators refinished. It was dipped in an acid bath, sand blasted, primed & painted; it looks great. When i hooked it back up, only 2 or 3 of the rails are heating up out of the 9 rails on the radiator. What would cause this? I'm not sure if there's a blockage or what. Hopefully someone has some suggestions on how to get the heat to the rest of the radiator.
Thanks

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  • JUGHNEJUGHNE Member Posts: 7,853
    Is there a working air vent on the radiator?
  • mcp1mcp1 Member Posts: 48
    Yes, I have a Danfoss thermostatic radiator vent on it. The vent is set at 4. The radiator is located on my 2nd floor and the riser only supplies this radiator.
  • Jamie HallJamie Hall Member Posts: 14,714
    And did your refinishing and painting people leave the opening for the air vent open? Or paint it shut?
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England.
    Hoffman Equipped System (all original except boiler), Weil-Mclain 580, 2.75 gph Carlin, Vapourstat 0.5 -- 6.0 ounces per square inch
  • mcp1mcp1 Member Posts: 48
    The opening for the air vent was open. I replaced the vent when i reinstalled the radiator.
  • Jamie HallJamie Hall Member Posts: 14,714
    Just a vent? Or a Danfoss thermostatic radiator valve? And if the latter, to what do you have it set?
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England.
    Hoffman Equipped System (all original except boiler), Weil-Mclain 580, 2.75 gph Carlin, Vapourstat 0.5 -- 6.0 ounces per square inch
  • mcp1mcp1 Member Posts: 48
    It's a Danfoss thermostatic radiator valve set at 4
  • Jamie HallJamie Hall Member Posts: 14,714
    OK -- then the question is, is the room getting to the temperature you want? If it is, the Danfoss is doing exactly what it's supposed to do: close the venting when the room is up to temperature. No need to have the radiator pumping out heat that you don't want...
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England.
    Hoffman Equipped System (all original except boiler), Weil-Mclain 580, 2.75 gph Carlin, Vapourstat 0.5 -- 6.0 ounces per square inch
    mcp1
  • JUGHNEJUGHNE Member Posts: 7,853
    Can we see a picture of the radiator showing both ends?
  • FredFred Member Posts: 8,496
    edited January 10
    I'm hearing at least two changes here. 1) the radiator was removed and refinished, which isn't likely to be the source of the problem or 2) the vent was replaced with a Danfoss thermostatic vent. Either that vent is working like it should (if the room is up to temp) or the setting needs to be increased or the vent isn't working at all and the steam is compressing the air in the radiator enough to allow 2 or 3 tubes to heat up. In any case, I think the issue is at the vent.
    I suppose there is a third possibility, that the supply valve isn't fully open or when you did open it, the disc inside the supply valve came loose and isn't letting steam into the radiator.
    mcp1
  • mcp1mcp1 Member Posts: 48
    Thanks for the feedback guys. I'll put up a picture. Fred, how would i know if the Danfoss vent is working? I'm going to set the vent at 5 and see if that does anything. If the vent isn't working should i replace it with a varivalve vent?
  • FredFred Member Posts: 8,496
    mcp1 said:

    Thanks for the feedback guys. I'll put up a picture. Fred, how would i know if the Danfoss vent is working? I'm going to set the vent at 5 and see if that does anything. If the vent isn't working should i replace it with a varivalve vent?

    Don't replace it with the Varivent. They are so aggressive that they will spit water. You can use the Vent-Rite #1 or the Hoffman #1A. Both are adjustable.
    About the only way I know of to test the Danfoss is to take it off and use one of the two vents I suggested and see if that fixes the problem.
    mcp1
  • mcp1mcp1 Member Posts: 48




  • JUGHNEJUGHNE Member Posts: 7,853
    You have to keep in mind that the TRV-air vent you have will only shut off the heat by preventing air venting, not call the boiler to come on for more heat. The boiler has to shut down for it to open and start over.
    If you turn it up all the way does it heat more?
  • Jamie HallJamie Hall Member Posts: 14,714
    Seems we haven't answered the fundamental question when using a temperature controlled vent -- is the temperature in the space what you want?
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England.
    Hoffman Equipped System (all original except boiler), Weil-Mclain 580, 2.75 gph Carlin, Vapourstat 0.5 -- 6.0 ounces per square inch
    JUGHNE
  • mcp1mcp1 Member Posts: 48
    Jughne, I turned up the vent and now I'm waiting to see if that works
  • mcp1mcp1 Member Posts: 48
    Jamie, when using the Danfoss vent the temp is not what i would like the room to be. I would like the room temp to be warmer.
  • Jamie HallJamie Hall Member Posts: 14,714
    mcp1 said:

    Jamie, when using the Danfoss vent the temp is not what i would like the room to be. I would like the room temp to be warmer.

    Turn it up. If your boiler cycles often enough, that will work (the boiler has to cycle off for the TRV to reset).

    I presume that you couldn't control the heat properly with a conventional vent?
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England.
    Hoffman Equipped System (all original except boiler), Weil-Mclain 580, 2.75 gph Carlin, Vapourstat 0.5 -- 6.0 ounces per square inch
    mcp1
  • JUGHNEJUGHNE Member Posts: 7,853
    Adjust it higher and try it for a couple of days, these are not an immediate response device.
    mcp1
  • Jamie HallJamie Hall Member Posts: 14,714
    I might add -- there is a common misconception with TRVs that if you turn it up you will get heat. Doesn't work that way. If you turn it up, it will let the radiator heat longer -- the next time the boiler turns on. Further, it is quite possible that the actual vent you have attached to the TRV is too small to let the radiator heat enough anyway.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England.
    Hoffman Equipped System (all original except boiler), Weil-Mclain 580, 2.75 gph Carlin, Vapourstat 0.5 -- 6.0 ounces per square inch
    mcp1
  • mcp1mcp1 Member Posts: 48
    You guys are a big help, thanks!!!

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