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mveytsman13mveytsman13 Member Posts: 3
I have a three story home in the nyc area (basement, 1st, 2nd). The basement has baseboard heating, the 1st and 2nd floors have steam. A bathroom on the 1st floor, which was part of an extension done by the previous owner, has an electric heater (no clue why) and it sits on the opposite end of the house from the boiler. I am planning on making some renovations and hoped to add a steam radiator to the bathroom, but i'm a bit hesitant because 1) steam is very sensitive to pitching problems and 2) most plumbers these days are not very experienced with steam systems given that the overwhelming majority of new and remodeled homes have hot water heat. If i'm planning on ripping up the floors, does it make sense to convert my system to hot water? What kind of cost could i expect to incur with a conversion? I believe my boiler can handle both steam and hot water, so that's something that wouldn't need to be changed. Thanks in advance for any guidance or advise.

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  • SteamheadSteamhead Member Posts: 14,062
    @mveytsman13 , what you need is a Steam Man. Since plumbing and heating are two different things that use pipes, it's possible for someone to be a very good plumber but not know steam.

    \There are ways to handle the pitch issues. If you tell us where you're located, we might know someone who can handle this.

    Don't waste your money converting to hot-water.
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  • Jamie HallJamie Hall Member Posts: 13,910
    There are a bunch of good steam men in the New York City area. Look under "find a contractor" for New York.
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  • EdTheHeaterManEdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 1,071
    @mveytsman13 You came to the right place
    You can get a ton of free expert to advise on this forum. @Jamie Hall has the best advice by going to the top of this web page and clicking on "Find A contractor" (if it is not at the top of this page go to the "Main Site" and you will see the link there)
  • A steam radiator would be nice in the bathroom. So would electric radiant in the floor.
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  • EBEBRATT-EdEBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 7,579
    Try @JohnNY
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  • JohnNYJohnNY Member Posts: 2,551

    Try @JohnNY

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  • mveytsman13mveytsman13 Member Posts: 3
    @Alan(CaliforniaRadiant)Forbes would it make sense to only install radiant in a small bathroom? I love radiant floors, so that's definitely appealing. My goal is to have a regular source of heat in the bathroom and not an ad-hoc electric heater. thanks everyone for your input.
  • mattmia2mattmia2 Member Posts: 1,999
    Assuming the boiler has the capacity, there are numerous ways to add hot water radiant to the hot water loop for the basement. Electric radiant is also an option, though more costly to run, it could take decades to pay off the extra hardware to make a radiant loop in the difference between heating it with the boiler vs with electricity, especially if it has little outside exposure.
  • Alan (California Radiant) ForbesAlan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 2,540
    edited August 20

    @Alan(CaliforniaRadiant)Forbes would it make sense to only install radiant in a small bathroom? I love radiant floors, so that's definitely appealing. My goal is to have a regular source of heat in the bathroom and not an ad-hoc electric heater. thanks everyone for your input.

    Electric floor heat makes sense to me in bathrooms. It would be zoned on it's own so it would keep the temperature stable and only warming according to the schedule you program. And you don't need a specialty tradesman (rare and overworked these days) to install it.

    The only caveat is that electric radiant is classified as "floor warming", not "space heating", but I've never heard anyone say who has electric floor heating that the room doesn't heat properly.
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  • SteamheadSteamhead Member Posts: 14,062
    The problem with electric radiant floors is when they fail, you have to rip up the floor to fix them. Call me old-school, but I like having things where you can get at them easily.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
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    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
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  • mveytsman13mveytsman13 Member Posts: 3
    thanks for the input everyone

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